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Topic: Identifying a National Lap Steel |
Fred Anderson
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Posted 17 Jul 2018 7:37 am |
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Hi I saw a national lap steel yesterday that is shaped like a New Yorker but it only had one knob and the fret board was done with Roman numerals. I. Didn’t get a photo. Would anyone have an idea of the model.
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Noah Miller
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Posted 17 Jul 2018 8:03 am
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| There was no National model that fit that description. Were the numerals black and white or multi-colored? What color was the body? |
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Fred Anderson
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Posted 17 Jul 2018 11:59 am National
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That is the exact model. Thank you so much. Do you know what one would be worth. The one I found is a little rough and someone put Grover tuners on it. They want $500 for it.
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Noah Miller
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Posted 17 Jul 2018 12:16 pm
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So it is a New Yorker; those all have two knobs. The value varies a lot by era and the pickup(s). Changed tuners will hurt the value, especially if the replacements are different from the originals (which were Klusons) and required additional screw holes. $500 would be about right for a '30s model (C. E.'s was built 1936-9) in that condition, but it would be a little much for a post-War one in rough shape.
If you can post a pic of a New Yorker from the same era, we can give a more specific answer. |
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Paul Honeycutt
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Colorado, USA
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Posted 18 Jul 2018 7:32 pm
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Fred, is this National similar to the one you saw?
I had it appraised by George Gruhn in 2004, and his opinion
was that it was a 1947 National New Yorker.
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Mine looks just like that one. I was told it's a '47. |
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Fred Anderson
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Idaho, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2018 1:13 pm Pictures
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Hi Guys I bought this for $325 out of a local pawnshop today. It needs tax, but I am glad to get it. It is the one I asked about. I missed the National logo.
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Jack Hanson
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Posted 19 Jul 2018 1:20 pm
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| Any more pix? The tag will, if original, identify the year it was built. Even sight-unseen (mostly), it would seem you got a decent deal. Especially with what appears to be a nice original case. |
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Fred Anderson
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Idaho, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2018 1:24 pm Photo
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Here it is.
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Jack Hanson
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Posted 19 Jul 2018 1:42 pm
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| Jack Hanson wrote: |
| ...it would seem you got a decent deal. |
Nice guitar at a nice price. Someone here likely will know the year, but until they chime in, this table can be useful in dating Valco instruments:
http://www.oldfrets.com/Valco/Dating.html |
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Fred Anderson
From:
Idaho, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2018 2:51 pm National
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Hi Jack 4117G is the serial number. The pawn shop where I bought it said 1930s. I don’t have a clue of when it was made. Thank you for the reply.
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Fred Anderson
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Idaho, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2018 2:55 pm Thanks
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It looks like 1943-1947 from the chart you sent. Thank you I appreciate it. This little guitar sounds great. I am glad I rescued it.
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Noah Miller
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Posted 19 Jul 2018 4:49 pm
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| It's actually 1941-2, as identified by the pickup. That chart is usually right, but sometimes it's off by a year or so. |
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Fred Anderson
From:
Idaho, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2018 5:15 pm Thank You
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Thank you all for your help. I would have never figured all this out. 1942 works for me thanks for clarifying that date Noah. This forum is invaluable. Once again thanks to all of you.
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