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Topic: E9 Extended Tuning.............Need Help |
Ted Nesbitt
From: Northern Ireland
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Posted 9 Sep 2005 1:49 pm
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Need some help guys......I have just aquired an Excel S12..3Pedals and 4 K/levers. The guy I bought it off had it strung with 10 strings,no strings on keys 11 and 12, but I want to re-string with 12 strings,useing the extended E9th tuning. What is the tuning for strings 11 and 12? and should there be a rod on the 12th string? if so, do I raise a full tone? The guitar is set up "Emmons" copedent. Thanks in advance.......Ted |
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Joseph Carlson
From: Grass Valley, California, USA
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Posted 9 Sep 2005 1:54 pm
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I'm no expert, but on mine I have an E on string 12 and a G# on string 11. No pulls on the low E string, but the B pedal pulls the G# to A. Hope this helps! |
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Dave Ristrim
From: Whites Creek, TN
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Posted 9 Sep 2005 2:05 pm
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Ditto Joseph |
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Charlie McDonald
From: out of the blue
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Posted 9 Sep 2005 2:23 pm
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If no pulls, I like E and A. |
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Archie Nicol
From: Ayrshire, Scotland
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Posted 9 Sep 2005 2:46 pm
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Hi, I messed with the tuning last year when I bought back my old Sierra. I'm loving the Mullen, despite the long `B` pedal travel.
Cheers, Arch. http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/008418.html
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One of those steel guitar thingies and an amp.
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Bobby Lee
From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2005 8:42 am
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I've been playing Extended E9th for 28 years now. I love it!
My 11th string is G#, and I use .046 gauge. The second pedal ("B") raises it to an A note along with the other G# strings.
My 12th string is E, and I use .056 for it. Technically you don't need any changes at all on the low E. It provides a very useful foundation note in the open and A+B positions.
I've found it useful to lower it to C# on the F lever LKL, a trick I learned from Winnie Winston. Some people raise it to F instead. You will want to do one or the other if you use the A+F position very much.
I also lower the 12th string to D on the third pedal ("C"), which comes in real handy. The B+C position gives me a low D-A-D power chord on strings 12, 11 and 9.
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Bobby Lee (a.k.a. b0b) - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open Hearts
Williams D-12 E9, C6add9, Sierra Olympic S-12 (F Diatonic)
Sierra Laptop S-8 (E6add9), Fender Stringmaster D-8 (E13, C6 or A6)[This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 10 September 2005 at 09:43 AM.] |
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Chris Brooks
From: Providence, Rhode Island
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Posted 12 Sep 2005 3:56 am
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I second b0b's string guages on 11 and 12 and his tip on lowering E to C# with the E-to-F lever.
Chris
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Carter SD-12 Extended E-9 with 5 & 6; Peavey N 112; Small Stone, Hughes & Kettner Rotosphere. |
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 12 Sep 2005 6:13 am
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I agree with b0b and Chris and their changes. Another nice thing is to lower your 11th string G# to F#. I hadn't thought of this change until I got Mike Headricks CD and asked him about his copedant. He uses a 10 string with a G# on the bottom and makes great use of this change. The C pedal is a good place to add this change.
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Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!!
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David Wren
From: Placerville, California, USA
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Posted 12 Sep 2005 12:12 pm
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I play univeral E9th/B6th so don't want to mix apples with oranges.... but I do agree that if you get a giant E down there, find a way to lower it to D (I like a knee lever so you can hit it at the D, then release... to E) while workng your A pedal.... very rythmic and bluesy bass vamping... might want a 15" speaker for this one.
Oh yes, having fun with large strings....
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Dave Wren
'95Carter S12-E9/B6,7X7; Session500; Hilton Pedal
www.ameechapman.com
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