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Topic: Zumsteel S12 6x5 Green Lacquer $3300 Awesome, with videos |
John Goux
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Posted 5 Apr 2018 5:29 pm |
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Fantastic sounding Zum S12 in beautiful green lacquer and rope.
6x5 late 70’s all pull.
VIDEO LINKS LOWER IN THE THREAD.
Good to hear how wonderful this Steel sounds.
This stunning Zum has some notoriety for its look, but it is one of the best sounding steels you will ever hear. There seems to be a sustain motor running at all times. Like a good PP, it sings back to you, from your first open chord to the soaring 24th fret. The old SC pickup is sassy and sweet at 22k ohms.
The chrome legs are new, made from lighter weight material.
The case is a new high end Dell, with casters on the bottom to save your back.
The pouch is also new and in fine condition.
Lots of upgrades here, ready for hard gigging, or to simply adorn your music room.
Recently set up by the inimitable Jim Palenscar.
A quote from our local steel guru,
“I wouldn’t sell that if I were you.â€
“Why not?â€
“Because you can’t build a steel guitar that sounds that good.â€
The coped is Ext E9 and Uni.
It can be strung as either Uni or Ext E9. I’ve been playing it as an 11 string without the low B. I love having the big E triad on the bottom with the D accessible by pedals.
I can restring for you as well.
Coped:
Tuned high to low:
F#,D#,G#,E,B,G#,F#,E,B,G#,E,(B)
ABC standard Emmons. (B pedal raises all 3 G#s to A)
LKL raises 4/8 to F.
Vertical lowers 5 to Bb.
LKR lowers 4/8 to Eb.
RKL raises 1/7 to G# with feel stop at G, and raises 2 to E.
RKR lowers Str 2 to D and C#, and lowers Str 6 to F#.
Pedal 4 lowers G#s to G nat, for Eminor.
(Pedal 5 and 6 are standard Uni.)
Pedal 5 Str 7 lower to F.
Pedal 6 Str 8 lower to D, Str 4 raise to F.
These last 2 give you the strummable diminished and Dom7b9 chords.
Price is $3300 plus shipping. OBO.
Contact via forum or gouxman@sbcglobal.net
And now the photos. Thanks for looking.
John
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John Goux
From:
California, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2018 6:01 pm
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BTW, the cabinet drop is very low on this 12 string.
For those concerned about it, the cents are:
E’s with AB pedals down...-3.5.
With A/F engaged, Str 3 -2.0 Str 6 is 0.0!
With BC engaged, Str 7 is -4.0. Str 3/6 lower together-1.0.
This is great for intonation.
Thanks, John |
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John Goux
From:
California, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2018 2:00 pm
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Mike DiAlesandro
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Kent, Ohio
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Posted 7 Apr 2018 4:25 am Very nice Zum
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Great guitar  (I sold this Zum back in 2015)
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John Goux
From:
California, USA
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Posted 7 Apr 2018 11:20 pm
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Thanks Mike. Very kind of you to chime in.
John |
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John Goux
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California, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2018 1:13 pm
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John Goux
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California, USA
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Posted 13 Apr 2018 5:28 pm
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John Goux
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California, USA
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Posted 19 Apr 2018 9:14 am
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John Goux
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California, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2018 12:09 am
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John McClung
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Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2018 1:45 pm
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John, a friend of mine has a same-vintage 12-string Zum like yours, in a kind of butterscotch color. I nearly bought it. These models are older (the placement of the small logotype indicates that), and the changer is 3+2, as you can see in one of your pics. I rely on the fuller 3+3 changer of later guitars. The tone on his is wonderful, I imagine this one sounds great, too.
Great deal for someone. John McDuffie, where are you, man?
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▪️ If you want to have an ongoing discussion, please email me, don't use the Forum messaging which I detest! steelguitarlessons@earthlink.net |
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John Goux
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California, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2018 7:37 am
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Hi John, thanks for the big thumbs up.
The tone and sustain of this Zumsteel beat any all pull guitar I have played.
Don’t know why these older Zums sound so exceptional, but they do.
As shown in the photo, the changer is triple raise/double lower. That is plenty for most people. 6x5 is a well loaded guitar. For those that want more, there are options.
There are good reasons why Zumsteels sell for such a premium. If you look around the forum you will see some very pricey guitars. This is a quality guitar priced to sell. Perfect for a newbie 12 stringer or experienced pro who knows the value and dependability of these instruments.
John
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John McClung
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Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2018 5:06 pm
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What John Goux said!
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E9 INSTRUCTION
▪️ If you want to have an ongoing discussion, please email me, don't use the Forum messaging which I detest! steelguitarlessons@earthlink.net |
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John Goux
From:
California, USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2018 2:08 pm
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John Goux
From:
California, USA
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Posted 29 Apr 2018 4:37 pm
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Here is the first of some short video links on Vimeo.
Good to hear the tone of the steel.
This is an improv based on the chords to Little Wing.
https://vimeo.com/267154575
John
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John Goux
From:
California, USA
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Posted 29 Apr 2018 4:44 pm
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And here is another short video of a Together Again,
The videos were shot with a Zoom video cam using the onboard stereo mics.
Blackface amp, pot pedal, no effects.
https://vimeo.com/267155495
Enjoy
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Matt Teske
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Seattle, WA
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Posted 30 Apr 2018 11:12 am Tunable Splits
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John, this is a beautiful guitar.
Does it have tunable splits in the changer? I can't tell from the photos, and from what I understand, '82 is about the time these were added to the Zums. Thanks. |
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John Goux
From:
California, USA
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Posted 30 Apr 2018 11:54 am
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I have a split on string 5 with pedal A and the vertical giving me an Aminor chord. I’m not sure how Jim Palenscar did this. It is at +6 cents which is about where I tune minor thirds.
I don’t see a row of split screws. But Jim made it work.
String 6 is splitting with the G# to F# lever/ B pedal for a G natural. This one has not been tuned. Since I have a pedal that lowers the G#s to G for Eminor, I wasn’t concerned with the intonation on that split.
You may be correct on the Zumsteel history of split screws. That is a good question for Zumsteel enthusiasts here on the forum.
John
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John Goux
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Posted 3 May 2018 9:01 pm
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John Goux
From:
California, USA
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Posted 8 May 2018 2:35 pm
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Here is another link to a video demonstrating:
The “intune split†on String 5
Strummable diminished and Dom7b9 chords
Jazz chord inversions and some improv lines, through the progression of Ipanema
https://vimeo.com/268684949
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John Goux
From:
California, USA
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Posted 12 May 2018 7:29 am
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2018 4:34 am
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| Nice Zum John l like that model |
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John Goux
From:
California, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2018 8:20 am
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Sold
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