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Ron Victoria
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New Jersey, USA
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Posted 22 Aug 2005 3:38 pm |
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As a lap player, I know nothing of psg. I saw this posed....
An old Emmons pedal steel has recently come into my possession. This guitar has one neck, 3 pedals, and one knee lever. I haven't located any other identifying features or serial number. Was there ever an Emmons made which has only one knee lever? Or is it more likely that this guitar is missing a couple?
I know this is the true source for facts.
Thanks, Ron
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 22 Aug 2005 4:06 pm
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| The Emmons model BR-10, also affectionately known as the "Black Rock" came standard with 3 floor pedals and 1 knee lever. (It was really a student guitar.) I don't think that any of the "pro" models ever had less than 2 knee levers, but someone like Bobbee or Nick might know for sure. |
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John Bresler
From:
Thornton, Colorado
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Posted 22 Aug 2005 5:16 pm
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| There is one listed in an old catalog (#734) which is a Model GS-10 which is equipped with 3 pedals and 1 knee lever. It also states that it meets the requirements for their 52 week home study course for the 10 string E9th tuning. 241/4" inch scale, hard rock maple body in a gloss finish. Don't know what year this catalog is, but the price is $398.00 + $47.50 for a case and $60.00 for the volume pedal. "A Professional Pedal Steel Guitar at a Low Student Price". |
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Ron Victoria
From:
New Jersey, USA
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Posted 22 Aug 2005 6:02 pm
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Thanks guys.
Ron |
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 22 Aug 2005 8:08 pm
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My first PSG (late 90s) was a 70s Emmons Student Model 3+1. This was a wood guitar, with the fretboard just glued to the body, no separate neck, covered with Rosewood mica laminate, and was not a Black Rock. A search will reveal several threads on the Black Rock, which was somewhere between this student model and a full pro model. I thought it sounded real good, but I found it a bit clunky in the playability dept. I admit, though, it probably would have played a lot better if I had known how to set it up properly. 
I quickly switched to an all-pull, which I found much easier to learn on. I now have a pro-level 70s black-mica P/P S-10 3+4 set up by Bobby Bowman - a big, big improvement over that 3+1.
BTW, Bobbe Seymour has one identical to my student model on his website, http://www.steelguitar.net/. I'll bet it's set up a lot better than mine was. [This message was edited by Dave Mudgett on 22 August 2005 at 09:11 PM.] |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 23 Aug 2005 12:34 pm
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Didn't the push/pulls at one time only come with pedals and you had to add on the knee levers? If so, it could be feasible that there could be a guitar out there with only one lever that's not a student model. Although, I think the S-10 came with 5 or 6 pedals stock. So, this probably was a student model. Curious that they would put a stock lever on an inexpensive Student model but not on the pricier pro models.
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Carter D10 9p/10k, NV400
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Larry Clark
From:
Herndon, VA.
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Posted 23 Aug 2005 3:57 pm
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| My first steel was an Emmons Black Rock and it came stock with 3+3. |
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Willis Vanderberg
From:
Petoskey Mi
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Posted 25 Aug 2005 4:47 am
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Richard:
You are right on as to the early P/P guitar with no knees.I purchased a new one in 1968 and we put on a RKL lowering the E's.
At that time I was playing a " Day " set up.
I later added a RKR .
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Jeremy Steele
From:
Princeton, NJ USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2005 7:20 am
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| Years ago I bought a push pull (used) with 5 pedals and one knee lever. |
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Kenny Forbess
From:
peckerwood point, w. tn.
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Posted 27 Aug 2005 2:07 pm
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My 66 D-10 #1026D came from the factory with 8&1, and the lever was of the Sho~Bud "tear-drop" style.
Since then,it has sprouted out some more tho, 
Kenny
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66 Emmons D-10 8&8
68 Emmons S-10 4&4
Derby D-10 8&9
Sho~Bud Pro-lll 8&8
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