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Larry Moore
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Hampton, Ga. USA
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Posted 11 Feb 2018 5:48 pm |
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I have a Performance D-10 with 9 & 6
I bought it used do not know the year it was made.
The serial # 2101 if anyone has one they bought new & can help me with a date I would appreciate it very much
Thank you
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Edward Rhea
From:
Medford Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 12 Feb 2018 6:37 am
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Larry, I’m not much help to you, and this may be a missed shot in the dark...John Billings at one time worked for Jerry Brightman @ Performance, assembling these fine instruments. He may or may not know? Best of luck to you!
I’d love to see pictures of your guitar. They are quite rare, at least in my part of the world?
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 12 Feb 2018 12:09 pm
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Sorry Larry! I just put them together and didn't pay any attention to the serial numbers.
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Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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Larry Moore
From:
Hampton, Ga. USA
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Posted 12 Feb 2018 2:45 pm Here is the Performance D-10
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Edward here are a few Pics.
Larry
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 12 Feb 2018 2:50 pm
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Thr reversers are so cool. I'd put a guitar together, and Jerry would string it and set it up, without a tuner. I could drop a hammer on the floor, and Jerry would call out 7 cents flat of D#.
RIP Jerr!
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Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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Edward Rhea
From:
Medford Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 12 Feb 2018 5:36 pm
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JB, you & Jerry sure put together some great looking steels! How many would you estimate, were produced?
Thanks so much for sharing, Larry! A real beaut!
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 12 Feb 2018 5:41 pm
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Ed, I only put together about a dozen before Jerry got screwed by a forum former member. He ordered two guitars, and never even opened the boxes, just sent them back. Pressure from other companies I guess But it killed Jerry's finances.
I used to use my Grandfather's Starett tools to measure everything. Jerry and I believed in straight pull. Rip Jerry!
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Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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Billy Carr
From:
Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 13 Feb 2018 2:36 am Psg
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| Jerry & myself had several conversations about the Performance guitars. I'd just started selling his guitars when whatever it was happened. He sent me a S-10D black mica and a red mica D-10 w/ 8 & 5. I sold the red one to a player in Alabama and moved the black one at the same time but don't remember who got it. JB liked the E66 pu's in the guitars. The two I moved for him were two of the best built and sounding guitars I ever saw. I was looking for a special color mica to send JB to have me a D-10 built at my expense to use for promotional purposes at steel shows, etc. The shutdown cancelled that out. But I did make a friend. RIP buddy. |
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Larry Moore
From:
Hampton, Ga. USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2018 3:04 am Performance Steel Guitars
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My Red D-10 is a 9-5
It has the BL-705’s chrome ones
Larry. |
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Dan Robinson
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2018 1:26 am
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| John Billings wrote: |
| Thr reversers are so cool. |
That's a fact! JB, you have mentioned them before. Built strong. A big contrast to the failure-prone Carter reverser, "Carter Kryptonite." |
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ajm
From:
Los Angeles
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Posted 15 Feb 2018 7:43 am
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What is a "reverser"?
And what is the problem with the Carter version? |
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John Swain
From:
Winchester, Va
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Posted 15 Feb 2018 8:54 am
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| A reverser refers to the mechanism that takes right-wards force of a RKR/LKR and pulls to the left. Reversing mechanism or linkage can be gears or a pivoting link or sprocket and etal. The best have rollers like Rains guitars use(IMHO). Carter guitars can break where two levers redirect the movement, although I've only heard of two complaints here on the Forum(Urban Myth). My Carter had 4 pulls(including 1/2 Stop) on RKR with no problem in 16 years. JS |
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Larry Moore
From:
Hampton, Ga. USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2018 1:46 pm Performance Steel Guitars
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John Swain
The Reversing mechanism is on the Performance Steel I have
has the roller like you said the Rains Steels have.
Larry
John Billings
There is a cross shaft between the 7th & 8th floor pedal
do you know what the purpose is there is no bellcranks on this shaft.
It is very loose in the front & back aprons
[see picture below]
notice how close to the 7th pedal this cross shaft is.
Thanks for your
Larry
Last edited by Larry Moore on 15 Feb 2018 2:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2018 1:50 pm
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Larry,
None of the guitars that I assembled had that cross shat brace. Jerry didn't think they were necessary. Don't know where that came from!
JB
_________________
Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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Larry Moore
From:
Hampton, Ga. USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2018 2:05 pm Performance Steel Guitars
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Thanks JB I'm goping to remove it
Larry |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2018 2:09 pm
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Do it Larry! If there are any ill effects (which I doubt), put it back. No big deal! And if it's loose, just what good is it? Very little cab drop in Performance Guitars.
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Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2018 6:12 pm
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| John Swain wrote: |
| A reverser refers to the mechanism that takes right-wards force of a RKR/LKR and pulls to the left. Reversing mechanism or linkage can be gears or a pivoting link or sprocket and etal. The best have rollers like Rains guitars use(IMHO). Carter guitars can break where two levers redirect the movement, although I've only heard of two complaints here on the Forum(Urban Myth). My Carter had 4 pulls(including 1/2 Stop) on RKR with no problem in 16 years. JS |
The fix for that dopey Carter reverser was heavy wheel bearing grease.. Lasted a year or so, wipe it off, put on a little new grease with a fingertip, and that setup was dependable, but still a really poor design.. bob
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I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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J R Rose
From:
Keota, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2018 8:51 pm
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Larry, If I understand your question you are talking about the cross rod that has no pull rods connected to it. I would say it could be removed. Maybe in the beginning they had another lever change planned and did not do it and just left the cross rod in. But I see nothing wrong with just leaving it. J.R. Rose
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NOTHING..Sold it all. J.R. Rose |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 16 Feb 2018 10:09 am
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| J R Rose wrote: |
| Larry, If I understand your question you are talking about the cross rod that has no pull rods connected to it. I would say it could be removed. Maybe in the beginning they had another lever change planned and did not do it and just left the cross rod in. But I see nothing wrong with just leaving it. J.R. Rose |
That's what I thought too. The most used (that I have seen) term for the rod that the bellcranks attach to, is "cross shaft". I have never seen that brace called a cross shaft.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 16 Feb 2018 10:46 am
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I think this is the shaft they are referring to. It's empty but it doesn't look like it would affect anything.
I don't know if it comes out, but I wouldn't worry about removing it, 'cause I'm bad at losing things,  but it may rattle if it's real loose or otherwise just be in the way. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2018 10:57 am
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I don't know what it's for.
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Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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J R Rose
From:
Keota, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2018 7:53 pm
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That brace is to stop detuning just like in many other guitars. Wood cabinet bodies will bow out when pedals are applied. This according to Bud Carter when I had a sight problem with a new D-10 Carter detuning when pedals were applied. He added the flat brace across the body and it was fixed. No more detuning. J.R.
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NOTHING..Sold it all. J.R. Rose |
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J R Rose
From:
Keota, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2018 7:58 pm
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Hey Jerry, That is so Cool to be able to put the arrow in the picture. That is just amazing. J.R.
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NOTHING..Sold it all. J.R. Rose |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2018 8:08 pm
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I do not think that's why it's there, if if it's the one pointed out.
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Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 16 Feb 2018 8:45 pm
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I defer to Larry, but I thought the cross shaft I marked is what he was referring to, not the wide strap bolted across the aprons in center of the guitar.
As stated, that one is to stabilize the body from deflecting under pressure etc. |
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