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Neal Vosberg

 

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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2018 2:48 pm    
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Simple set up. Stage One into a Nashville 112. Cables have been inspected and swapped. Most anywhere in the house, any outlet, (three prong, no dimmers on the circuit) I get a really bad hum, and an overall dirty, gainy sound. I can pick up the steel and move to very specific locations in rooms and the hum goes away. I've tested the amp with six strings, dead quiet. Use the amp at practice at a different location. Dead quiet and great tone. Are these intermediate steels more susceptible to interference or is it my hastily remodeled 1942 era home?
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Joseph Carlson


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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2018 3:57 pm    
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Not sure what pickup comes stock on a Stage One, but you might want to look into a humbucking pickup if it has a single coil in it now.

I'm partial to the Lawrence 710

http://www.billlawrence.com/Pages/Pickup_Window/Pedal_Steel.htm
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Brad Sarno


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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2018 8:30 pm    
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It has nothing at all to do with the steel guitar. It's about the pickup and whether it's a single coil or humbucker. Sometimes the most expensive steel guitar in the world has a single coil pickup that will hum terribly in the wrong venue.

That's the age-old tradeoff. Single coil pickups may sound sweeter and better in many ways, but they will pick up hum if the environment is "hummy".

I play too many places that have a hum problem, so I only use humbuckers. I wish I could use a single coil.


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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 24 Jan 2018 1:31 am     Re: Stage One humming like crazy.
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Neal Vosberg wrote:
Most anywhere in the house ... Use the amp at practice at a different location. Dead quiet and great tone. is it my hastily remodeled 1942 era home?


YES "MOST ANYWHERE" defines that it is NOT the Steel.

The Steel doesn't know where it is.

Read Brads post above !Smile

Years back I answered an add for a Marshall JCM 900 / 50 watter and 4 x 12 cab , I wanted to go rogue. At the guys house he was just wanting to dump the dang thing, noisy , hum... blah blah blah. He offered me the rig for next to nothing, he was sick of the issues. I took a chance, dragged it home...

Quiet as a Church Mouse...

It wasn't the amp...
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Lyle Dent


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Little Rock ,Arkansas
Post  Posted 24 Jan 2018 2:48 am     Hum
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Neal, sounds like a grounding issue. Try putting on the little orange 3/2 adapters on the plugs. I play some places where I have to use them to get rid of the hum and carry them in my seat. The weirdest place is where they have GFI plugs on the stage (too much beer) and I have to plug each rack component separately from the rack rider off the stage or all plugs go out.
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Jack Hanson


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San Luis Valley, USA
Post  Posted 24 Jan 2018 2:56 am    
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One of these may help. Much less expensive than rewiring your home.

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Douglas Schuch


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Valencia, Philippines
Post  Posted 24 Jan 2018 5:00 am    
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Stage Ones come with a humbucker pickup, so unless this guitar had the pup changed or was ordered with something else, then that is not the problem. Can you post a pic of the pickup?
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Lee Baucum


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Post  Posted 24 Jan 2018 7:34 am    
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...or is it my hastily remodeled 1942 era home?


That certainly could be a problem.

If you have a long enough extension cord, set up your equipment in a known-to-be noisy room and plug everything in to a plug in a known-to-be quiet room.

See if that makes any difference.

Have you tested all the outlets to make sure they are wired and grounded properly?

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Neal Vosberg

 

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Post  Posted 24 Jan 2018 3:15 pm    
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That's the non-descript pickup that I assume is stock.
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Neal Vosberg

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 24 Jan 2018 3:19 pm    
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Also, how is it possible that I've never had this issue with all my various single coil six strings in the past, but steels are just picking up every interference?
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Greg Thompson


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Taumarunui, New Zealand
Post  Posted 24 Jan 2018 3:26 pm    
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Send Doug @ Stage One an email
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Glenn Demichele


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Post  Posted 24 Jan 2018 3:32 pm    
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Sounds like the ground wire of the pickup came loose from the jack. Trace the wires to the pickup
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mtulbert


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Plano, Texas 75023
Post  Posted 24 Jan 2018 3:59 pm    
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Neal,

You mentioned that use the amp at a different location and there is no hum. I am assuming that you are also using the steel there and there is no hum. If that is correct, you may be experiencing EMI or electro magnetic interference. I had an issue at my house with this problem and it just about drove me crazy. No grounding aid will help with this problem. I finally found the cause to be my pool pump and when I turn it off, my steel is dead quiet.

I also had it with guitar pickups however and you mentioned that you don't. I would suggest that you start pulling breakers and see if you can find the cause that way. This may not be the case but you never know.

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Doug Earnest


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Branson, MO USA
Post  Posted 25 Jan 2018 7:42 am    
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That is one of the old original ZumSteel single coil pickups specific to the Stage One.

I can't say why it is noisy in some places at some times and not others, but will say that the pickups were inherently noisy. Great sound, but noisy.

Humbuckers have been standard equipment on all Stage One labeled guitars that I have built.
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Randy Schneider


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SW New Mexico, USA
Post  Posted 25 Jan 2018 9:13 am    
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Like many broadcast radio signals, EMI/noise/hum often seems to have a 'polarity' to it.

My single-coil Squier Strat picks up a lot of noise in this room if the body of the guitar is held parallel to the floor (as a pedal steel would be), but is much quieter when held to be played (vertically, at 90 degrees to the floor). My Tele single coils aren't as noisy as the Strat, but still hum more if parallel to the floor than if held at a right angle (as it would be when played).

Might be interesting to tip the steel to a different orientation to see if the noise fades or gets even worse.
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