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Topic: E9 -> C6 conversion: how hard? |
Jeffrey McFadden
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Missouri, USA
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 22 Jan 2018 12:54 pm |
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Student model.
Fixed copedent.
This means that a guy with wrenches and screwdrivers stands no chance whatsoever.
A guy with a machine shop and an understanding of pull-release mechanics would find it a doddle.
I suspect you're the former, not the latter.
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Larry Phleger
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DuBois, PA
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Posted 22 Jan 2018 1:06 pm
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| IMHO this guitar is a poor candidate for such a conversion. There are not enough existing parts in the guitar to simply change things around, and I don't know if the changer is capable of accommodating the changes necessary for a C6 copedant. Most modern professional grade S10 guitars are capable of being converted from E9 to C6, but you will probably need to purchase some additional parts to complete the project. |
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Lane Gray
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Posted 23 Jan 2018 6:48 pm
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A pull-release guitar is fully capable of running a very complex copedent, but you'll either have to make or buy a LOT of parts.
See the current pull-release thread, there are a lot of pictures and discussions on the topic.
But such a conversion is NOT for the faint of heart or the light of wallet.
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Bill Moore
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Manchester, Michigan
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Posted 23 Jan 2018 7:45 pm
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First, that guitar looks like it is in very poor condition, lots of corrosion on the metal parts etc. But, because the Fender student model used a full pull/release changer and the undercarriage parts were the same as used on the pot metal Sho-Buds, it could be converted. Here are a couple of pictures showing the changer and undercarriage of the student model, not pictures of the particular guitar, though. it would be relatively easy to convert this guitar to most any tuning. You could install more knee levers very easily too. However, I would not pay that much for the guitar is this condition.
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Jeffrey McFadden
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Missouri, USA
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Posted 23 Jan 2018 7:49 pm
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Very interesting, and thanks one and all.
I know right at nothing about any specific existing brand of PSG and I'm sure glad I asked.
"Pull-release" guitar is not a phrase I have encountered in my very limited study of PSG.
I'm going back to my original plan: build. If the first one doesn't work I'll build another.
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Lane Gray
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Posted 24 Jan 2018 8:49 am
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Pull-release is similar to the push-pull, except that it uses a rod with a return spring on the end of it instead of the lower finger.
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Jeffrey McFadden
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Missouri, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2018 5:26 pm
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Yes, thanks. I read on the thread here after my last post and learned more.
I was born ignorant and naked. So far I'm dressed. 
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Chris Scruggs
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Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2018 2:13 pm
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| You play C6 and not E9... Are you a non pedal player looking to get into pedals? A Fender 400 might actually be a good candidate for you. They feel and play like non pedal Fenders and the cable operated pedals are very easy to change tuning and set up on. |
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2018 2:21 pm
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What about a rack and barrels ShoBud. One of the things I love about them is it's so easy to change things, experiment.
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Lane Gray
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Posted 31 Jan 2018 8:35 pm
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| John Billings wrote: |
| What about a rack and barrels ShoBud. One of the things I love about them is it's so easy to change things, experiment. |
Absolutely. But that's not the guitar he's looking at.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Jeffrey McFadden
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Missouri, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2018 9:14 pm
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| Chris Scruggs wrote: |
| You play C6 and not E9... Are you a non pedal player looking to get into pedals? A Fender 400 might actually be a good candidate for you. They feel and play like non pedal Fenders and the cable operated pedals are very easy to change tuning and set up on. |
That's exactly what I am. I'm leaning towards building, because I live on a Veteran's disability and would be really stretched to buy any pedal steel worth owning, but I get tempted to buy because I'm old and can't wait forever to get started. I'll keep your advice in mind and my eyes open.
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