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Robert Engel

 

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Walnut Bottom, Pa.
Post  Posted 27 Dec 2017 8:52 pm    
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Could someone suggest a course or books for a beginner?

Assume that I have no musical background, am 70 years old, and will not be playing out.
Thanks in advance
Bob
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Bob Bestor


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Ashland, OR
Post  Posted 27 Dec 2017 10:17 pm    
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https://www.jeffrancollege.com/product-page

https://www.amazon.com/Back-Up-Pedal-Steel-Guitar-DeWitt/dp/0786697083/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1514441802&sr=8-1&keywords=mel+bay+back+up+pedal+steel

Go get 'em!
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 1:27 am    
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Robert, with ZERO musical background I would buy a cheap 6 string guitar and the MEL BAY guitar PRIMER book. With ZERO understanding of the music language, the road will be very long and very bumpy.

The musical conversation ( also called theory) is the same for every musical Instrument. Don't get bogged down with the theory word, but you do need a simple road map which the MEL BAY Primer will teach. There are also multiple YOUTUBE instructions for basic guitar training .

For example, chords C, F and G , ( I, IV and V ) What does that even mean ? It's how songs ( music) is constructed.

The Pedal Steel guitar turnings and pedals are built on these very basic principles of theory.


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Ken Boi


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Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 5:06 am    
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Some people like learning from books. Some like learning from the video format. For the latter, a couple options I will suggest for the beginner are:

MelBay - Anyone Can Play E9 Pedal Steel Guitar by Rob Haimes. Takes you through the very basics:
https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Play-Pedal-Steel-Guitar/dp/B0013KSAUS/ref=sr_1_fkmr3_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1514465889&sr=8-1-fkmr3&keywords=pedal+steel+dvd+teaching

Another multi-video beginner E9 series is by Troy Brenningmeyer. You can start with one video and advance from there:
https://www.lessonswithtroy.com/Pedal-Steel-Lessons/

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Andy Henriksen

 

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Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 7:19 am    
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Tony Prior wrote:
Robert, with ZERO musical background I would buy a cheap 6 string guitar and the MEL BAY guitar PRIMER book. With ZERO understanding of the music language, the road will be very long and very bumpy.

The musical conversation ( also called theory) is the same for every musical Instrument. Don't get bogged down with the theory word, but you do need a simple road map which the MEL BAY Primer will teach. There are also multiple YOUTUBE instructions for basic guitar training .

For example, chords C, F and G , ( I, IV and V ) What does that even mean ? It's how songs ( music) is constructed.

The Pedal Steel guitar turnings and pedals are built on these very basic principles of theory.


kinda like cement---add water---MIX


I would suggest a variation of this. If you want to learn PSG, then focus your practice on PSG. But have a $5 thrift store keyboard nearby, so when you are studying the theory aspects of PSG, you can apply them also to the keyboard, which will help it all make a lot more sense. Pianos/keyboards are great in that they have all the notes in order, and there's only one place to play each of them, i.e., one key=one note. Concepts like how chords are constructed, etc., will be much clearer if you have a keyboard to poke at a bit...
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Fred Treece


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California, USA
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 11:10 am    
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I recommend at least one private lesson with a qualified teacher. Then maybe you would have enough information to get started on a self-taught program.

One hour with someone who can show you how to sit at the guitar, how to hold the bar, how to tune, how to fit your picks*, how to pick a string or multiple strings simultaneously, appropriate footwear and how to work the pedals and knee levers, what the fret markers mean, and maybe learn a couple of basic chords —- even if you have to travel an hour one way to get to Pittsburg or Philadelphia to find a qualified person, do it.

*I think it is okay to play bare-fingered, but I suggest at least using a thumb pick.

Maybe there are some players from PA here on the forum who could point you in the right direction.
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Jack Hanson


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San Luis Valley, USA
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 12:09 pm    
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This book would be a good place to start:
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Fred Treece


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California, USA
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 2:07 pm    
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I have that book and I still work with it. While it has been a big help to me with my decades of experience on guitar, I would not recommend it to a beginner without a teacher, nor to someone with no musical background or experience on other string instruments.
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Robert Engel

 

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Walnut Bottom, Pa.
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 2:14 pm    
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I am surprised that no one mentioned Dewitt Scott's book Deluxe Pedal Steel Guitar Method. Is it a little too advanced ?

Just for the record, I do dabble with the 6 string, but only know enough to hurt myself. I figured if it was assumed that I know nothing , the advice I get from you all would be geared to that, and that is what I am looking for.

I am also going to schedule a lesson with Jim Cohen.
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Mike Wheeler


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Delaware, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 3:36 pm    
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Robert Engel wrote:

I am also going to schedule a lesson with Jim Cohen.


Uh, oh...so, you'll need all the help you can get. Razz Razz Laughing
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Robert Engel

 

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Walnut Bottom, Pa.
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 3:43 pm    
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Jim was recommended by several forum members, and I am looking forward to meeting him.

As far as help goes, I'll take all the help I can get Very Happy
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Mike Wheeler


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Delaware, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 3:59 pm    
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I was just pokin' fun at Jim. You can't go wrong listening to what Jim tells you. He'll steer you right.
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Fred Treece


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Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 5:33 pm    
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I am surprised that no one mentioned Dewitt Scott's book Deluxe Pedal Steel Guitar Method. Is it a little too advanced ?

It would have been mentioned eventually. That book has certainly withstood the test of time.
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I am also going to schedule a lesson with Jim Cohen.

This is better than the first chapters of any lesson book.

The Paul Franklin method is on the way too. It has stirred up quite a bit of interest here.
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Jim Kennedy

 

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Brentwood California, USA
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2017 9:34 am    
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I found the free Joe Wright Lessons on the Sierra Guitar website to be quite helpful, especially his explanation of scales. Tom Bradshaw also offers a free chord book that covers all of the basic chord types and how to play them on e9.
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