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Casey Saulpaugh


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Post Posted 22 Nov 2017 11:24 am     Reply with quote

Here are a bunch of scale diagrams I created to help with visualizing the C6 fretboard: http://playpedalsteel.com/scale-diagrams-for-the-c6-neck/

Tying these pockets and positions together can help with single-note passages, and movement in any direction. Hope ya'll enjoy! Mr. Green

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David Gertschen


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Post Posted 22 Nov 2017 6:48 pm     Reply with quote

Thank you, Casey! I was not familiar with that site, but I now have it bookmarked.
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Casey Saulpaugh


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Post Posted 27 Nov 2017 2:07 pm     Reply with quote

You're welcome David! I'm glad you have it bookmarked, thanks for checking it out. Hope everyone is enjoying the diagrams!
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Daniel Morris


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Post Posted 30 Nov 2017 5:54 pm     Reply with quote

I still struggle to 'get' modes, but thanks for doing this.
I also only play a U12, but it's fairly easy to transcribe.

Phrygian and Locrian coming?
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Casey Saulpaugh


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Post Posted 12 Dec 2017 3:27 pm     Reply with quote

You're welcome Daniel, I hope they are helping. Phrygian and Locrian are on the way, currently in the works Mr. Green I will post them when completed.
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KENNY KRUPNICK


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Post Posted 14 Jan 2018 2:50 pm     Reply with quote

(y) Very Happy
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Ian Rae


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Post Posted 14 Jan 2018 10:49 pm     Reply with quote

Yes, thank you Casey. I have a problem with these modes, not because I don't understand them but because I don't see their practical use. They are just different selections from the major scale, so the mechanics of performing them are identical.

The harmonic and melodic minor modes on the other hand are different (as are the ones used in Jewish music) and need to be studied seperately.

Or is it just me Confused
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Daniel Morris


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Post Posted 16 Jan 2018 5:07 am     Reply with quote

I understand what you mean, Casey - only just recently did I feel I'm getting a real handle on the modes, and it'll be a while before I can utilize them. Still, they certainly do offer another option, but perhaps you can do what my (jazz) guitarist buddy did: have someone play different chords while you play the same scale. It's surprising at times how different that same scale sounds. You'd probably be best off with a jazz guy (or gal) who gets this and can show you how to use modes. Modes sure worked for Coltrane, but even if you don't play jazz, there are definitely places I believe you can use them for added flavor.
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Mark van Allen


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Post Posted 16 Jan 2018 1:47 pm     Reply with quote

Nice job, Casey, clear and useful. I love the divisions into positions/ directions on the neck.

And Ian,
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They are just different selections from the major scale, so the mechanics of performing them are identical.
is exactly the point and the strength of modal position playing.

For example, a G major scale IS an A dorian minor scale. It will automatically give you the b3 and b7 of the A scale, for a smooth Santana-ish vibe over A minor. If you already know a G major scale and many licks and ideas within it you can simply apply those to an Am situation and let your ear help you phrase into the A minor chord or tonality. Thinking of the application you see the "rule" for A minor Dorian playing is simply major playing a whole step below the current key center.

Similar applications and easy "rules" for the other modes give you access to tons of new ideas over many playing situations. Seems very powerful to me.
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