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Robert Engel


From:
Walnut Bottom, Pa.
Post Posted 6 Dec 2017 9:37 pm     Reply with quote

New member here. I don't play, but would like to learn , but I need a guitar. These would be my choices - Carter starter 3x4, or stage one 3x4 ?

These seem to be quality guitars, and I don't want to spend a ton of money until I see if I can learn.

Any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated.

Also, if anyone knows of a teacher in South Central Pennsylvania, that would be a big help.

Thanks in advance.
Bob
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Jim Cohen


From:
Philadelphia, PA
Post Posted 6 Dec 2017 10:03 pm     Reply with quote

Stage One.

Where in PA are you? I'm just north of Philly. Maybe too far...
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Robert Engel


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Walnut Bottom, Pa.
Post Posted 6 Dec 2017 10:11 pm     Reply with quote

about 35 miles south west of Harrisburg.
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Robert Engel


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Walnut Bottom, Pa.
Post Posted 6 Dec 2017 10:13 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks, Jim.
I didn't see the stage one part.
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Ken Pippus


From:
Lake Oswego, OR
Post Posted 6 Dec 2017 10:13 pm     Reply with quote

Stage One. By a country mile.

If I was within driving range of Jim Cohen (see post above) I'd be taking lessons from him.
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Billy Carr


From:
Seminary, Mississippi USA
Post Posted 7 Dec 2017 2:02 am     Psg Reply with quote

Do yourselve a favor and buy something with an all pull changer. Easy to tune/adjust, if needed. Thanks.
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Stu Schulman


From:
Ulster Park New Yawk
Post Posted 7 Dec 2017 2:39 am     Reply with quote

Stage one!
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Barry Coker


From:
Alabama, USA
Post Posted 7 Dec 2017 5:01 am     Reply with quote

Whatever you get get the best you can afford If you spend all your time tuning and adjusting you will never learn. A good guitar will be be worth more and quicker to sell if you upgrade or decide its not for you.
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Lane Gray


From:
Topeka, KS
Post Posted 7 Dec 2017 5:42 am     Re: Psg Reply with quote

Billy Carr wrote:
Do yourselve a favor and buy something with an all pull changer. Easy to tune/adjust, if needed. Thanks.


Ordinarily a solid answer.
But there's no planet on which the all-pull Carter Starter is superior to the pull-release Stage One.
On the other hand, if one starts on a pull-release guitar, one might get spoilt by their superior tone.
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Robert Engel


From:
Walnut Bottom, Pa.
Post Posted 7 Dec 2017 7:28 am     Reply with quote

Well, it seems like it will be the Stage One.
Now all I have to do is find one in my price range ($1000 + shipping )
Thanks to all for your help and suggestions.
Bob
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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post Posted 7 Dec 2017 7:44 am     Reply with quote

Did you grab the one that just sold on the Forum?
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Robert Engel


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Walnut Bottom, Pa.
Post Posted 7 Dec 2017 7:54 am     Reply with quote

No, sorry to say, I did not.

I'll keep looking.
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Jerry Overstreet


From:
Louisville Ky
Post Posted 7 Dec 2017 8:19 am     Reply with quote

Don't despair. They come up here from time to time. Looks like 5 or 6 just in the last month or so.
You could post on the Wanted to Buy board and someone might contact you via that also.

I've seen a couple on the online auction sites. Just be careful there.

I'll toss my recommendation for Stage One in the hat too.

Might check with Doug Earnest, the Stage One builder concerning future build start up dates.
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Robert Engel


From:
Walnut Bottom, Pa.
Post Posted 7 Dec 2017 9:19 am     Reply with quote

Thanks, I'll do that
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Jim Sliff


From:
Lawndale California, USA
Post Posted 7 Dec 2017 2:29 pm     Reply with quote

Personally I think the GFI student model is a better guitar for just a little more money. Also easily expanded. Worth considering - especially since Stage Ones haven't been shipping in months according to the website.

I tried a couple of Carter Starters and thought they were very flimsy. And with Carter out of business parts availability might be questionable. I think Steel guitars of Canada is selling some now, but in the future?
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post Posted 7 Dec 2017 4:49 pm     Reply with quote

Jim Sliff wrote:
Personally I think the GFI student model is a better guitar for just a little more money. Also easily expanded. Worth considering - especially since Stage Ones haven't been shipping in months according to the website.

I tried a couple of Carter Starters and thought they were very flimsy. And with Carter out of business parts availability might be questionable. I think Steel guitars of Canada is selling some now, but in the future?


I believe that Michael Yahl said he's not going to produce Carter replacement parts as long as Al has stock, but it wouldn't surprise me if he starts once Al runs out.
Right gentlemanly of him.
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Charley Bond


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Inola, OK, USA
Post Posted 8 Dec 2017 9:01 am     Hudson Pedal Steel Philadelphia $700 Reply with quote

here is something to look at...

Hudson Pedal Steel.

You can buy it, play it & sell it & lose nothing

https://reading.craigslist.org/msg/d/steel-guitar/6393031445.html
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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post Posted 8 Dec 2017 9:09 am     Reply with quote

Jim Sliff wrote:
Personally I think the GFI student model is a better guitar for just a little more money. Also easily expanded. Worth considering - especially since Stage Ones haven't been shipping in months according to the website.


Is GFI still building, now that Gene has passed on?
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Lane Gray


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Post Posted 8 Dec 2017 9:37 am     Reply with quote

Yes they are. I think the family kept it going.
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Karen Sarkisian


From:
Boston, MA, USA
Post Posted 8 Dec 2017 9:45 am     Reply with quote

+1 on the stage one !!
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Richard Alderson


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Illinois, USA
Post Posted 8 Dec 2017 9:50 am     Reply with quote

Take Out a 10 foot pole. If you can touch a Carter Starter with a 10 foot pole, you are too close.

Otherwise don't even touch a Carter Starter with a 10 foot pole.
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Damir Besic


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Nashville,TN.
Post Posted 8 Dec 2017 10:00 am     Reply with quote

I wonder how many people can play like this on their $10,000 Franklin


https://youtu.be/gT1TvjnlYHM
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Ryan Bramlett


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Colorado, USA
Post Posted 11 Dec 2017 11:04 am     Reply with quote

If you're willing to spend $1000, I would save up just $300 or $400 more and you'll be able to buy a nice used guitar that you won't have to upgrade for quite awhile.
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