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Daniel Morris


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Post Posted 30 Nov 2017 3:03 pm     Reply with quote

For a band mate, I'm looking for some solid Western Swing style guitar instruction material. Youtube videos, etc.

The band I'm in does some Texas swing music, and since I'm not a guitarist, I thought I'd ask if any who primarily play (or double as) lead guitarist have any instructional material they'd recommend.
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Paul Stauskas


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Post Posted 30 Nov 2017 6:05 pm     Reply with quote

Jason Loughlin on Truefire
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Scott Akers


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Post Posted 1 Dec 2017 7:54 am     Reply with quote

Joe Carr’s “Western Swing Guitar Style” book has been helpful to me.
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robert kramer


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Post Posted 1 Dec 2017 3:02 pm     Reply with quote

Here's the Ranger Doug book:

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/rhythm-guitar-the-ranger-doug-way-ranger-doug/1119458470/2695685012080?st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Marketplace+Shopping+greatbookprices_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP24104&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmITRBRCSARIsAEOZmr46Xv3b7Ex8H5M3ou7L2UEcAkOSdj7JP6dD_0AvTj_xsyJUkdEw8hwaAhaUEALw_wcB

Also - check out Eldon Shamblin the man who created Western Swing Guitar when he was on the Bob Wills band. Eldon also played hot single string solos - in fact when Charlie Christian was starting out he heard Eldon on the radio in Oklahoma. Eldon’s life story and many live clips are on YouTube - we’ll worth your time.
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Here's Eldon @ 1:44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srzu8qIr2pY


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Jim Cohen


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Post Posted 1 Dec 2017 3:40 pm     Reply with quote

I know that Ray Benson has a video out on this; don't know how good it is, though...
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Bill Cunningham


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Post Posted 1 Dec 2017 9:00 pm     Reply with quote

A while back there was a post here by a guy who was doing some Eldon Shamblin style stuff. I believe he was playing a Gretch guitar. Sorry I can't be of more assistance. Maybe someone will remember or you can find him on YouTube.
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Bob Bestor


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Post Posted 2 Dec 2017 12:29 pm     This looks like a good intro Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yyK3wVNku4
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Jerry Hayes


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Post Posted 3 Dec 2017 7:08 am     Reply with quote

I don't know his name but the guy that used to play the archtop guitar with the Quebe Sisters had a really nice touch and I heard he was their teacher....JH in Va.
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Daniel Morris


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Post Posted 3 Dec 2017 12:27 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks for all the help here!

I think my band mate is primarily looking for help with lead guitar. Those Western Swing Rules videos look great, and I've passed those on.
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Russ Wever


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Post Posted 3 Dec 2017 9:28 pm     Reply with quote

Jerry Hayes wrote:
I don't know his name . . .


That'd be Joey Mckenzie.
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Russ Wever


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Post Posted 3 Dec 2017 9:31 pm     Reply with quote

Jerry Hayes wrote:
I don't know his name . . .


That'd be Joey Mckenzie.
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Mike Neer


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Post Posted 4 Dec 2017 4:52 am     Reply with quote

Can't go wrong with starting off with listening to Charlie Christian. It all starts with him.

For those interested, Clint Strong made an instructional video many moons ago. I would consider him to be just about the best Western Swing lead guitarist I've ever heard. Listen to Tom Morrell's Pterodactyl Ptales for evidence. Clint's stuff gets into jazz concepts and how to jazz up country tunes on this video. It's really good stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFU_9GFoi6o
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Chris Templeton


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Post Posted 4 Dec 2017 3:25 pm     Reply with quote

I first heard Clint when he was with Merle Haggard. I am forever a fan.
Great video, Mike. Thanks for posting.
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Daniel Morris


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Post Posted 6 Dec 2017 2:08 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips; my band mate is finding some of this stuff useful.
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Leon Grizzard


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Post Posted 8 Dec 2017 5:52 pm     Reply with quote

Bill Cunningham wrote:
A while back there was a post here by a guy who was doing some Eldon Shamblin style stuff. I believe he was playing a Gretch guitar. Sorry I can't be of more assistance. Maybe someone will remember or you can find him on YouTube.


That is me. My YouTube stuff is mostly rhythm, but I have a series on scales for country and weston swing, which might be helpful, and doublestop melodies. Here’s my channel:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ljgaustin

The Joe Carr Western Swing Lead Guitar Styles book is very good, as are all of Mr. Carr’s materials.

What OP’s band mate really needs to study is Charlie Christian. That is the right era and right style.


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Daniel Morris


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Post Posted 8 Dec 2017 6:20 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks, Leon, that looks great!
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Tom Dillon


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Post Posted 8 Dec 2017 7:28 pm     Reply with quote

I agree, Charlie Christian is the starting point. Looks like a lot of his transcriptions are online if you look. The Benny Goodman Sextet recordings are full of great riffs and feature Christian prominently.

Then check out Eldon Shamblin and Junior Barnard with Bob Wills. Eldon made an instruction video several years ago. I assume it's long out of print.

I'd also recommend Whit Smith's 2 "Chordination" instruction DVDs. He's the guy in Hot Club of Cowtown:
http://whitsmithmusic.com/

Search You Tube for Joey McKenzie
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