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Arthritic Thumbs
Splints
8%
 8%  [ 1 ]
Shots
50%
 50%  [ 6 ]
Surgery
8%
 8%  [ 1 ]
Therapy
33%
 33%  [ 4 ]
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Jim Sliff


From:
Lawndale California, USA
Post Posted 14 Nov 2017 9:57 pm     Reply with quote

I have had severe arthritis at the base of my left thumb fo over 8 months.

A banjo player buddy is a hand therapist and made me a otherwise very expensive) custom-fit brace.

My orthopedic surgeon/hand specialist (also a guitarist) has done several treatments including cortisone & trigger-point injections.

Still fouled to the point that I can't really play 6-string; b-bender is a non-started (and that's my main type) - and while I can hold a bar OK, I can only handle it for 30 minutes or so. And any strain causes pain that shoots up my forearm.

So I'm looking at "anchovy" surgery over the winter, with a projected 4-6 month complete recovery time..very possibly longer with my disabling chronic pain issues related to irritation of multiple nerve endings.

Yikes.

Whoa!
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Dale Rottacker


From:
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Post Posted 16 Nov 2017 2:00 pm     UPDATE---Arthritis in base of Thumbs Reply with quote

I’d like to thank all of you who’ve participated in both the poll as well as sharing your experiences with Arthritic Thumbs.

I went and saw my Dr. today... She ordered new X-rays to determine the progression from last June when I first had my thumbs X-ray’d

Someone also mentioned Diclofenac, which I in turn mentioned to my Dr. She said yes it’s pretty effective and I have to say that after having applied it about 3 hours ago, within an hour I was feeling more relief than I’d expected.

I also asked her about CBD oil, and she said, that the best results seem to come from a 1-1 ratio of THC-CBD, so I got some of that too, but now have to figure out how to make a lotion with the 5 little vials I got for 35 bucks. HELLO YOUTUBE!!!...

She is also trying to get me into an orthopedist, and will probably end up with shots and hopefully that will slow down the progression.

She also suggested neoprene splint type of thing, that still allows movement but helps support the joint and also add warmth to it to help with mobility.

Anyhow, thanks again, and lets keep coming back here to share what has worked for you and what didn’t, and maybe we can all play a little longer because of the insight we got right here.
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Dan Robinson


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Post Posted 18 Nov 2017 4:37 pm     Reply with quote

My right thumb basal joint is pretty far gone. Checked by my rheumatologist and hand surgeon. The surgeon told me that recovery time is as much as six months. Too long for me, at least right now. Tried several steroid injections, sometimes they help for a few weeks, but overall... meh.

Come to Colorado, get all the CBD oil you want, lol. I haven't tried it, don't know if it helps.

Diclofenac is OK for, what it's worth. It provides some relief, but when you have a joint with bone on bone there's only so much you can do. Holding a regular guitar pick aggravates it (that pinching motion), but fortunately playing the steel doesn't bother it.

For me it's all about learning what bothers it and how to avoid things that make it worse ("hey doc, it hurts when I ..." "Then don't do that.").

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Dan Robinson


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Post Posted 19 Nov 2017 4:06 pm     Reply with quote

Just remembered a driving suggestion from the hand surgeon. Grip the steering wheel with your thumbs next to your fingers, not wrapped around the wheel. It's less irritating to the base of the thumb. And safer in the event of a collision.

It took some time to get used to this, but it does help me.
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Dale Rottacker


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Post Posted 20 Nov 2017 4:51 pm     Reply with quote

Dan Robinson wrote:
Just remembered a driving suggestion from the hand surgeon. Grip the steering wheel with your thumbs next to your fingers, not wrapped around the wheel. It's less irritating to the base of the thumb. And safer in the event of a collision.

It took some time to get used to this, but it does help me.


I’ve noticed that too Dan... It doesn’t seem to bother me quite enough to do it all the time.

I missed a call from the Orthopedist today, but will call tomorrow to make an appointment and hope they can fix me up... The Declofenac seems to help, that or I’m just having some good days Smile
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Bobby D. Jones


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West Virginia, USA
Post Posted 20 Nov 2017 9:11 pm     Arthritis in base of thumbs. Reply with quote

I have heard no one talking about Osto-Bio-Flex or something similar. My body has been horse rolled, cow kicked, steer kicked and 18 years of a field Wild Life Officer. Both knees, Right Shoulder and Right Elbow was causing problems. At work one day I was having problems with my left knee. Our new secretary suggested Osto-Bio-Flex. In her younger days she was a down hill skier and had joint problems. It took 40 days to take effect and cut the pain. That was 15 years ago and I still take it every morning.
An old Army buddy who was a dozer operator for 40 years on rock cut high wall road jobs. He said he quit taking Osteo-Bi-Oflex and 40 days later he could hardly get out of bed. He went back to taking it.
With what my hands have been through, this may be helping my hands and keeps them working.
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post Posted 21 Nov 2017 3:04 pm     Reply with quote

From the outside;
I go to a real Chinese Herb Doctor. No bottles of pills from China, but bags of mixed herbs from his wall of herb drawers. 25 years ago, I could not walk without a cane. My Shanghai-born lady friend took me to an acupuncturist who told me that I needed herbs. I saw the herb Doc three times, and I have no idea where my cane is. I'd bet a good one could help the thumbs too. But you have to find a good one! No bottles of pills, just real herbs that you make into tea. And one trained in China, not Taiwan. They treat the cause, not give you something to cover the symptoms.
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Dale Rottacker


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Post Posted 20 Feb 2018 8:54 am     Reply with quote

Quick update... I see another post on Arthritis so it jogged my memory, about my thumbs.

I’ve been using Turmeric and Black Pepper capsules for a little over a month, and have gone from thinking about my thumbs ALL the time to only thinking about them part of the time... I’m already bone on bone in both thumbs, and although I can still tweak them and cause pain, I’m able to be much less gingerly about them when using them...

The Turmeric and Black Pepper is the only thing I can attribute the much lessened pain too... I haven’t tried the Hemp Oil yet, but before I started using the capsules I had used CBD Balm that did help... I haven’t used any of that since I started the capsules as they seem pretty effective... I’m not taking the quantity that Georg is, but do think I’m going to add the Hemp Oil to see if there’s added benefit.
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Jim Newberry


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Post Posted 20 Feb 2018 12:09 pm     Reply with quote

Not the base of my thumb, but the first knuckle and apparently not arthritis. It looks like I have a kneecap on my thumb and it hurts like hell. Diclofenac helps, but this might require some work. My doctor says it's essentially "unremarkable"....




Ouch.
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Georg Sørtun


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Post Posted 20 Feb 2018 3:54 pm     Reply with quote

Dale Rottacker wrote:
I’m not taking the quantity that Georg is, but do think I’m going to add the Hemp Oil to see if there’s added benefit.
Glad Turmeric and Black Pepper capsules work for you.
Hemp Oil should be a staple food – one to two tablespoons a day – best taken at the same time as the Turmeric/pepper, as those spices dissolve in the fatty oil in your stomach for an even better effect.

Advice: don't be too diligent about taking them every day. These items are food, not medicine, and we do not eat exactly the same food in the same amounts every day – at least I don't. The human body usually fares better with a day or two without these items now and then, so it can "use up any overdoses" so to speak.
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Dale Rottacker


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Post Posted 21 Feb 2018 1:49 am     Reply with quote

Georg Sørtun wrote:
Dale Rottacker wrote:
I’m not taking the quantity that Georg is, but do think I’m going to add the Hemp Oil to see if there’s added benefit.
Glad Turmeric and Black Pepper capsules work for you.
Hemp Oil should be a staple food – one to two tablespoons a day – best taken at the same time as the Turmeric/pepper, as those spices dissolve in the fatty oil in your stomach for an even better effect.

Advice: don't be too diligent about taking them every day. These items are food, not medicine, and we do not eat exactly the same food in the same amounts every day – at least I don't. The human body usually fares better with a day or two without these items now and then, so it can “use up any overdoses” so to speak.

Georg, thanks for your knowledgable advice.... I’ve had days where I’ve tweaked my thumbs a little at work and then it takes a few days to “recover” but overall just with the capsules I’ve seen pretty good improvement... I’m going to get the Hemp Oil you recommended, just haven’t decided if I’ll get a whole gallon of it or not... I’m guessing it needs to be refrigerated, so that could be a small concern.
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Georg Sørtun


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Post Posted 21 Feb 2018 3:18 am     Reply with quote

Dale Rottacker wrote:
I’m going to get the Hemp Oil you recommended, just haven’t decided if I’ll get a whole gallon of it or not... I’m guessing it needs to be refrigerated, so that could be a small concern.
That's the one I have used, in the small bottles, for the last 4 years to good effect.
Nothing wrong in looking for, and trying out, other brands. Many choices out there. Four to six weeks use should tell you if whatever you choose is working to your satisfaction, or not.
I have never refrigerated mine, just kept it at room temperature somewhere dark – in a kitchen-drawer for instance. Heat and sunlight / strong light speeds up oxidation, which is what we don't want.
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