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Jeff Hogsten


From:
Flatwoods Ky USA
Post Posted 6 May 2017 8:32 am     Reply with quote

I don't use a C pedal. I raise my E to F# on a lever. Love it. I'm getting ready to add a B to A lower. I'm going to put a half stop there. Got the idea from Tommy White. I've always wanted the half stop lower on the B but always wanted something else worse. That gave me the idea of putting a half stop on my E to F#. Thought someone may have done it. would appreciate any input.
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Richard Sinkler


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Oakdale, California
Post Posted 6 May 2017 9:14 am     Reply with quote

I would think that unless it was a really hard half stop, you would overshoot the F note. And that would make the full tone raise a bit hard to actuate without a bump in the move from E to F#. I activate the F lever pretty quickly, and need that hard stop on the F note.
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Jeff Hogsten


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Flatwoods Ky USA
Post Posted 6 May 2017 9:18 am     Reply with quote

That's what I was afraid of
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Georg Sørtun


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Mandal, VA, Norway & Weeki Wachee, FL, USA
Post Posted 6 May 2017 10:12 am     Reply with quote

I have gravity driven "hard" half-stops on both raise and lower of E-strings on my modified Dekley - had them since back in -88. Use the vertical lever to lift these stops out of the way when I want to raise, or lower, two half-notes.

Plus: no risk of overshooting (as one will have with spring-loaded half-stops).

Minus: 1) a bit more complex mechanism. 2) cannot use the vertical for anything else.

All in all: love it Very Happy
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Jon Light


From:
Saugerties, NY
Post Posted 6 May 2017 10:26 am     Reply with quote

I am completely unfamiliar with the intriguing engineering that Georg describes.
In the more familiar world, I have never met a feeler stop that was anywhere close to being firm enough to provide me the necessary confidence for the F lever. This is such an important and automatic position for me and it is an exacting lever to tune right. I want nothing to do with the complication of a less-than-hard stop.
I do have E>F# on a lever (in addition to the C pedal) but I'd give it up before I compromised the F lever.
Just speaking for myself.
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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post Posted 6 May 2017 1:15 pm     Reply with quote

I tried playing a friend's guitar that had that half stop. For me it was a disaster. I fail to see how my friend could play it.
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Paddy Long


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Christchurch, New Zealand
Post Posted 7 May 2017 4:11 pm     Reply with quote

You could always put a split on there for the other note as an option.
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John McClung


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Olympia WA, USA
Post Posted 12 May 2017 8:13 am     Reply with quote

Jim Palenscar's guitar has strings 4 and 8 E>F>F# as a double stop on the F lever, when set up right it's a great change, some unique voicing become possible.

My Mullen's LKL/Front raise just string 4 E>F#, no half stop, but sometimes I raise it a whole step, engage my F lever (RKR, do note), and release the F# down to F, for a new C#sus4 chord at open position. Or go the other way, F lever first, then the whole step raise, both are useful.

I still have a C pedal, and would never give that up, too indispensable for so many things that I play.
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