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Brett Lanier


From:
Vermont
Post Posted 1 Jan 2017 9:07 pm     Reply with quote

I'm looking for Emmons/Marlen style bell cranks for a 5/16" round cross shaft. In need of a couple now but will need several more because I plan to take out all the swivel mechanisms from my pull release Marlen and replace with spring loaded rods for all the lowers. They don't need to be original or anything, just function well. Also looking for a bunch of the little set screw collars. Anyone know of a good source for those? Thanks, Brett
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Ian Worley


From:
Sacramento, CA
Post Posted 1 Jan 2017 10:50 pm     Reply with quote

collars here: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXE106&P=6. Any hobby supply store will have them in various sizes/quantities.

If you don't need both the push and pull on every one, old Sho-Bud two hole bellcranks might do the trick. Michael Yahl makes 'em. I have a couple on my PP, but on raises, not lowers. They are longer and would provide a bit more leverage but will require ~1-3/16" clearance between the edge of the cross shaft and the underside of the top deck for the lowers (which your guitar may or may not have). Clem Schmitz used to sell regular Emmons PP replacements on ebay but haven't noticed them lately.
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Brett Lanier


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Vermont
Post Posted 2 Jan 2017 5:52 am     Reply with quote

Thanks Ian, that's good info. Seems expensive though that one of those bell cranks should cost over $45.
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Dave Diehl


From:
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
Post Posted 2 Jan 2017 6:51 am     Reply with quote

Brett, are you looking for 4 or 14 hole Emmons bell cranks? I have some 4 holes if that's what you want.
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Brett Lanier


From:
Vermont
Post Posted 2 Jan 2017 8:10 am     Reply with quote

Thanks Dave, I'm looking for the type that the rod can pass straight through and works with a set collar. Like from a push pull, or like the two hole Sho-Bud ones that Ian mentioned.
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Dave Diehl


From:
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
Post Posted 2 Jan 2017 8:12 am     Reply with quote

OK Brett.
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Ian Worley


From:
Sacramento, CA
Post Posted 2 Jan 2017 11:16 am     Reply with quote

Brett Lanier wrote:
Thanks Ian, that's good info. Seems expensive though that one of those bell cranks should cost over $45.

I think they are about ~$25 each from PSG Parts, he sells them in pairs so two bell cranks and two swivels is ~$45 + ship. I would bet that there are a ton of used ones laying around here in forumland though if you ask around. Probably more plentiful than Marlen or Emmons bell cranks if they would work for what you need.

The Marlen cranks don't look like they would too difficult to replicate, are they aluminum?
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Brett Lanier


From:
Vermont
Post Posted 2 Jan 2017 11:48 am     Reply with quote

Looks like it says $32.38 for one bell crank then an additional $12.65 for two of the brass swivels.

I have a couple good leads already. Thanks for your help.

http://www.psgparts.com/Pull-2-Hole-125-200-1.htm
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Ian Worley


From:
Sacramento, CA
Post Posted 2 Jan 2017 12:40 pm     Reply with quote

Brett Lanier wrote:
Looks like it says $32.38 for one bell crank then an additional $12.65 for two of the brass swivels...

$32.38 is for a package of two bell cranks, still not cheap but very nice quality. Good luck!
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Gary Mcquaig


From:
Blackshear Georgia, USA
Post Posted 3 Jan 2017 3:30 pm     Reply with quote

I have found the collars with set screws at Fastenal. May want to try their.
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John Bresler


From:
Thornton, Colorado
Post Posted 11 Jan 2017 4:17 pm     Reply with quote

You can find the Emmons p/p bell cranks and rod collars on ebay, too, Just do a search there.

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