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Ron Sodos


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San Antonio, Texas USA
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 11:24 am    
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What kind of tuners do you guys use?
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Brett Lanier


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Vermont
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 11:31 am    
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Peterson Stroboplus HD when the room is loud. An E and a C tuning fork when I can hear myself.
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 11:46 am    
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I use the Android app Cleartune, with the Peterson adapter cable.
I don't like the very concept of the programmable tuners: a tuner that tells me that 17 cents flat is zero just kinda troubles me.
Back when I used a complex chart, I still left it in ET mode, and pointed the needle to the proper value.
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Randy Owens


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West Central Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 12:15 pm    
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I like my Peterson Stroboflip.
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Ron Sodos


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San Antonio, Texas USA
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 12:31 pm     Tell me more about the Peterson adapter cable.
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Does it work with an Android tablet. The Peterson website says it works with ipads and iphones. Doesn't mention Android.
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 12:38 pm    
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Android and Apple use the same TRRS assignment
When Peterson started marketing the cable, they had no app for Android.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 12:51 pm    
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Peterson Strobo-Flip. I do have the adapter that lane mentions and a tuner program on my phone as a backup.
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Ron Sodos


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San Antonio, Texas USA
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 1:43 pm     Strobo flip
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I watched a YouTube on the strobo flip.
The guy said he used the Newman presets. Is it easy to adjust the frequencies so custom settings. Also what about raises and lowers.
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Paddy Long


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Christchurch, New Zealand
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 3:51 pm    
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Petersen HD, or my Stroborack depending on which rig I am playing through.
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Len Amaral


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Rehoboth,MA 02769
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 7:02 pm    
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I still use the Boss TU-12 tuner after all these years with the Jeff Newman compensated tuning chart.
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Pete Burak


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Portland, OR USA
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 7:47 pm    
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TU-12 for the S12U. Smile
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Carl Kilmer


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East Central, Illinois
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2016 8:07 pm    
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I've been using the Peterson Strobo-Flip for years and it's
been the best one I ever used. Never had any problem with it.
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Bruce Derr


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Lee, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 25 Nov 2016 6:42 pm    
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For a long time I've used Seiko tuners, the SAT800 and some others, with a numeric Cents display that makes it easy to temper any string however much you want. Seikos are getting hard to find. I think the SAT501 is the current chromatic model.

I've never tried a programmable tuner. I did just pick up a Turbo Tuner but I haven't yet put in a custom tempered tuning for steel.
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Keane Eng


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Alberta, Canada
Post  Posted 25 Nov 2016 8:26 pm    
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Peterson iStrobosoft app for iOS... because it lets me use my iPhone's giant screen, is super fast and digital, customizable, and most importantly, displays +\- cents.

Hooked up as follows...

Guitar > 3' cable > Y-cable splitter > Passive volume pedal with 1 x Input and 1 x Output

Other Y-cable splitter female jack > 2' 6" cable with 1MΩ resistor added between Tip and cable centre lead inside one of the two plugs > Peterson Adapter Cable > Apple IPhone 4 > Peterson iStrobosoft app for iOS

I don't know of any difference between the iOS version and the Android version.

If you're thinking of making your own Peterson Adapter Cable like I did, the Peterson cable isn't just a simple mono 1/4" female to 4-conductor 3.5mm male adapter cable. The input is isolated from the Microphone output, and the input impedance is very small (~25kΩ). All the power to you for making your own, but I elected to just buy Peterson's. The low input impedance is significant because it is low enough to cause an audible loading effect on a passive, shared guitar signal. If your signal going to your tuner is buffered, or is sent through a higher resistance than your guitar signal, then there should be no audible loading effect.

The 1MΩ resistor has been discussed on the Forum, here:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=173031

...It helps minimize the effect of loading due to passively splitting the guitar signal between the volume pedal and tuner. It effectively shares a tiny fraction of the guitar's output signal rather than an equal share, so that the effect on the guitar signal is negligible. A 500kΩ resistor is not quite enough; you may still hear a loading effect. 2MΩ is unnecessary, or rather, you risk not sending your tuner ample signal.

The Y-cable splitter allows me to use a volume pedal that doesn't have a dedicated Tuner output. The Tuner output on passive Ernie Ball volume pedals is just a tap directly off the Input signal, and will cause a loading effect and drop in volume and tone if connected to a tuner with a low input impedance. By having the 1MΩ resistor as part of the cable instead of the volume pedal's Tuner output, I don't need to modify my volume pedal, or use the same/modified volume pedal all the time.

I haven't purchased any of the iStrobosoft Sweeteners, yet I still try to follow the Jeff Newmann tempered tuning system, and iStrobosoft's cents display feature allows me to.

My favourite part though, is using my iPhone's giant, fancy display for a tuner.

I think they have a newer or better one out now, but I use an IK Multimedia iKlip Mini to mount the iPhone right next to my right wrist, behind the guitar, at the top of the right-rear leg, angled directly at my face.

Apologies for all the gory detail, but maybe someone finds this useful.

Peterson Adapter Cable:
https://www.petersontuners.com/shop/item/Adaptor-Cable-for-Mobile-Devices

IK Multimedia iPhone mount:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/iklipmini/
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Dan Beller-McKenna


From:
Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 26 Nov 2016 4:25 am    
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Sonic Research ST-200.

I used the Cleartune app on my phone for a few years. It works pretty well, but I had trouble with the adapter (bought multiple new ones, different brands, etc.) with my last two iPhones. I still have it for rehearsal or for my acoustic instruments in a pinch, but I couldn't trust it to pick up the signal through the adapter in a noisy gig environment. Also didn't know where to situate my phone if I left it plugged in.

I've never had one of the Petersons to compare to, but the Sonic Research works perfectly. I chose the larger floor/stomp version because I already have two things clipped to the leg of my steel. It runs in line from my volume pedal to my multi-stomp with no signal loss, and it allows for muted tuning at any time.

As on Cleartune, I use the Sid Hudson offsets.


Very happy with this set up.
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