| Select the answer that best describes if and how you apply the "boowah" pedal |
| I only use it on "Night Life" by Ray Price |
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6% |
[ 3 ] |
| I use it on a few well-known covers |
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6% |
[ 3 ] |
| I use it on a few well-known covers and originals |
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14% |
[ 7 ] |
| I use it on originals |
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8% |
[ 4 ] |
| I have it and never really use it, but I still tune the pulls anyway |
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14% |
[ 7 ] |
| I have it, I never use it, and I don't bother to tune the pulls |
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6% |
[ 3 ] |
| My guitar doesn't have this change |
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18% |
[ 9 ] |
| Other (explain) |
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25% |
[ 12 ] |
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Topic: What is your relationship with the "boowah" pedal? |
Duane Reese
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Posted 6 May 2016 10:40 pm |
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| In case anyone doesn't know, the "boowah" pedal is usually the #8 or last pedal on a C6th neck, and lowers the 10th string 3 semitones, lowers the 9th string 1 semitone and raises the 7th string 1 semitone. It is commonly adapted onto U12 steels as well, on their corresponding strings. |
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 7 May 2016 1:44 am
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I voted "other" because the only bit of that change I ever use is the 7th* string half-step raise, which I have on the same lever as the 3rd* string lower. And I keep my P8 tuned just in case...
[*9th and 5th on the uni]
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 7 May 2016 4:11 am
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The 7th string raise is useful in its own right.
Of course I use it for Night Life and well-known covers.
But I use it for lesser-known covers.
I also use it for playing baritone guitar lines
Like starting at 0:42 here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NYbXzQ4SZc0
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Cartwright Thompson
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 7 May 2016 7:38 am
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I mainly use it to show other players that you can play the exact same notes as the Jimmy Hendrix Purple Haze/Foxy Lady chord.
Of course anything with that Hold-It thing going on is fair game.
I like to use it while playing along with Ray Charles version of One Mint Julep.
https://youtu.be/CIPUhB7kRiY
Also, Ronnie Miller uses it on a great version of Spinnin' Wheel, some of use have seen him do it at Conventions, and it is on his great solo album.
Also good for adding 18-wheeler horns to 6-Days, etc... |
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 7 May 2016 7:48 am
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| Other, as I'm not a C6 player. |
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Tom Campbell
From:
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 7 May 2016 8:00 am
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Not a "must-have" pedal...it's a specialty pedal. Don't know how it ever got into the must-have category for C6 or U12 setups.
On the other hand the "Hold-It" pedal, as a specialty pedal, has a real/need use for blues and jazz.
Just my $.02 opinion... |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 7 May 2016 8:19 am
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Just friends. I swear.
Other.
It is the first pedal I would lose if I needed to cut down. But as per Pete, it is a place to find a 7#9 chord. It is also another 7th chord voicing & location. It's a nice pedal but my music doesn't require it much. |
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Duane Reese
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Posted 7 May 2016 8:24 am
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| Without knowing for sure, I'm going to assume that it's a Buddy Emmons invention, because he uses it all over the place in Steel Guitar Jazz (1963). Am I right? |
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John Sluszny
From:
Brussels, Belgium
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Posted 7 May 2016 10:09 am
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"Boo-Once in a while" ...just like the Franklin pedal !  |
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 7 May 2016 10:58 am
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| I've found uses for it in rock stuff. Mostly chord progression related...rather than the boowah sound itself. It's valuable enough to me to keep around. |
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 7 May 2016 11:26 am
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Indispensable to get 13b9 chords on the C6 neck! Hardly ever use it as a Boo-Wah. Also a few nice 7th grips used on most every song I play. See 6th note grouping over on this riff:
http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Tab/Tab16.wma
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Harley James
From:
Longview, Wa USA
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Posted 7 May 2016 11:43 am 8th pedal useage
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| I use the 8th pedal almost every time I use the C6th neck on a song. It has a classic sound that I really like on swing songs. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 7 May 2016 11:47 am
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I said "other" too. I use it , but not a whole lot. I use parts of it like others have said.
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 7 May 2016 12:15 pm
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The poll is skewed because there's no "I like it and use it a lot!" choice.  I play out of that position frequently, but it seems a bunch of players here are pretty lost, just using in in "Night Life". 
Pity.
(Every time I play C6th, I'm using the hell ot of that pedal.)
Last edited by Donny Hinson on 7 May 2016 12:18 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Steve Knight
From:
NC
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Posted 7 May 2016 12:17 pm
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| I use it on any dominant chord in a blues or jazz tune/progression. I don't really use the "boowah" effect so much as the voicing generated by the pedal for a +9 chord, the "Jimi Hendrix" chord, as refered to by many rock guitar players. |
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John Swain
From:
Winchester, Va
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Posted 7 May 2016 3:34 pm
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| I have both C's going to C# on LKLC6 so I use that most times to go to 6 or add a +5 or for passing melody notes, ignoring strings 9+10. But it makes a great altered 7th chord 3 frets below open root(9TH fret for C7th, as used by Buddy often on "Steel Guitar Jazz"! |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 7 May 2016 4:38 pm
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And remember Buddy would also use it at the end of a ride (or phrase) dropping 9 from a suspended 4th to the 3rd.
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 7 May 2016 7:23 pm
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| Greg C., in your tab above, shouldn't the second-to-last chord in the chord sequence (coincidentally, B13b9) be P5+P6, not P6+P7? |
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Duane Brown
From:
Reno,Nevada USA
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Posted 7 May 2016 9:17 pm
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| I vote other because I use that pedal a lot.Your poll is lacking a category for those of us who use pedals to play music, not just specialty licks. My current band doesn't do Night Life but there are so many other places to use the changes that it's indispensable for me. |
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Duane Reese
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Posted 7 May 2016 9:32 pm
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
| The poll is skewed because there's no "I like it and use it a lot!" choice. |
Oh, well I didn't give a schett about that. 
| Donny Hinson wrote: |
| I play out of that position frequently, but it seems a bunch of players here are pretty lost, just using in in "Night Life". |
Maybe lost...but, maybe found...found something better...?  |
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Bob Watson
From:
Champaign, Illinois, U.S.
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Posted 8 May 2016 1:18 am
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I use it as a #9 voicing on the 5 chord a lot. If you're playing in C on the 12th fret, go 2 frets down to the 10th fret with the boowah pedal and you have a G7#9 chord. I've heard a lot of players who know the C neck really well use it this way. I syncopate it by playing the 10th string first and then the #9 triad afterwards and the drummer always catches it and gets a smile on his face. Its a little "out", but the tritone police haven't caught up with me yet. 
Last edited by Bob Watson on 8 May 2016 12:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 8 May 2016 11:10 am
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My relationship with the boowah pedal?
Still playing footsies with it. ... |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 9 May 2016 7:57 am
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| Duane Reese wrote: |
| Without knowing for sure, I'm going to assume that it's a Buddy Emmons invention, because he uses it all over the place in Steel Guitar Jazz (1963). Am I right? |
Changing low C (.036 inch, not the extra low C on a 10 string) to C# was something that Joachin Murphey and Jerry Byrd did. Jerry would retune that string between C to C# between songs. He even had a tuning that used both C and C# strings. So when pedals appeared, it was natural to put the C to C# change on that string, so I would say it was less a Buddy Emmons invention and more just copying Jerry and Joachin. The usual 8 string C6 went form high E to low F, so the second pull on that pedal would naturally lower low F to E.
When 10 string C6 with low C came along it just seems natural to lower the lower A. |
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 9 May 2016 10:06 am
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
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Thanks Lane - never thought of it that way. Too easy to think of it as part of an A chord and nothing else.
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