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Michael James
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Posted 11 Aug 2013 7:11 pm |
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Cma11 Tuning
High to Low
F D B G E C
Low To High
C E G B D F
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Doug Beaumier
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Mike Ihde
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Boston, MA
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Posted 11 Aug 2013 8:58 pm
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| If it's low to high, it's Cmaj7/9 add 11 if it's the other way, it's G13 add11. |
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Michael James
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La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 11 Aug 2013 9:06 pm
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Yea, I wrestled with different names. As I thought about it, how many times have I played a Cmaj11add9 chord, or Cmaj9sus or whatever you call it? I think never. The chord has inherent void tones. The sus (1st string) conflicts with the 3rd (5th string).
Since the tuning has all the notes of the C major scale except "A:, I thought it more fitting to call it "C Diatonic Tuning". I didn't feel comfortable naming the tuning by a dysfunctional chord.
In the end you can call it whatever you want. The name is abratary.
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Michael James
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Doug Beaumier
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Michael James
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Michael James
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Michael James
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Doug Beaumier
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Posted 11 Aug 2013 9:43 pm
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| Since the tuning has all the notes of the C major scale except "A", I thought it more fitting to call it "C Tuning". |
Since you're looking at it as a scale based tuning, you should probably call it C Diatonic.
Jerry's C Diatonic tuning also has the notes of the C major scale except for D (2nd or 9th). He said he tried adding the D, but it seemed to get in the way so he omitted it. He still referred to it as Diatonic.
I think his 7 string version was like this:
1 E
2 C
3 B
4 A
5 G
6 F
7 E
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Michael James
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Michael James
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Doug Beaumier
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Doug Beaumier
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Michael James
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Michael James
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Doug Beaumier
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Michael James
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Michael James
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Guy Cundell
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More idle ramblings from South Australia
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Posted 12 Aug 2013 1:10 am
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| I would call the tuning C tertian (or chordal) as it is the C scale laid out in thirds as opposed to Byrd's tuning which is fundamentally secundal or scalear. There are lots of interesting slant options and a cool symmetrical harmonisation of the major scale as one of the videos shows. |
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Michael James
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La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2013 7:51 am
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Tertian is new term for me. It is no doubt the most accurate way to describe the tuning. Unfortunately is also not a very well know term. I think it would confuse more people than anything.
I'm trying to figure out how to pronounce it? I think I will use this term if I ever teach this tuning to anyone.
Thank you Guy. I need some to time to process this (new to me) term.
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Doug Beaumier
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Steve Cunningham
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Atlanta, GA
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Michael James
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La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2013 4:04 pm
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When I first discovered the tuning I used Bb Diatonic (Whole step down from current tuning). What I found was the open Bbmaj7 of Bbmaj9 chord was a bit muddy for my taste.
Did you guys find the video and the pdf doc you can download from video youtube pages helpful?
I'm glad you guys like it! I have felt very alone in the world with this tuning. 
FYI Stuff..
I have a 23" scale lap steel. Here are the string I use. I order singles from juststrings.com to make the set.
String Gauges
Daddario Plain Steel and Chromes Flat Wounds
1F-Plain Steel .013
2D-Plain Steel .015
3B-Plain Steel .019
4G-Flat Wound .024
5E-Flat Wound .028
6C-Flat Wound .035
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