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E9 is best for this kind of thing as you have all the notes of the scale available at the same fret and most of the relevant chords too. Mike Perlowin (RIP) called it the "Mozart neck".

Fear of rabbits is leporiphobia, should you hear it mentioned. I find it quite debilitating. You can do a lot of massage in Reaper, then you suddenly realise it's getting light and the birds are sing ...

Mine came included in a Telonics rack system and I love it. I've never used the factory presets, but I've developed a couple of dozen of my own over the years: various different types of reverb, some ...

There you are, Paul. Ostrich boots. Case solved.

I went to a uni because I liked to play both necks but didn't like to haul, let alone tune, let alone restring a D10.

If C6 isn't your thing I don't see the point. Extended E9 makes more sense.

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I have tried the boowah in position 4 and wished it was at 8 and vice versa. It's 50/50.

A while back I realised that its most frequent use is just to raise string 7 a half step, so I put that chan ...

What's confusing for a lot of people is the number of different "universal" tunings out there.

I just see the uni as a way of changing necks without having to shift your arms! If you thi ...

I tune my steel in natural intervals, and as well as occasional overdrive I also use an Electro Harmonix Synth 9.

John's explanation is very good. Intermodulation distortion is always with us and ...

Bobby is one of the players that inspired me to learn steel.
If there's one word for him it's "stylish". So cool!

Finally got round to reading this!

Interesting that on some guitars it affects the sound. Even more interesting is how guitar technique has changed so that a cover is often a nuisance.

Thanks J ...

No way! That was my custom spec. I've had a quick look at the Williams website and I can't see a standard setup - which is sensible in my view as everyone has different ideas Smile

Here's the copedent:

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/13632_Williams_setup_1.jpg

Upload isn't working too well at the moment but I managed this

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/13632_20240327_102451_1.jpg

No, but I'll attempt to take one later.
The left knees are arranged in two clusters, left and central for E9 and B6. I'm not a "one big tuning" guy - I think of a uni as a condensed twin-ne ...

To adjust pedal height, use the adjusters on the pedal rod connectors.

I have a beautiful S12 B6/E9 universal 7+8 which will keep me busy for as long as I have.

I use the modelled outputs from a Telonics preamp,
which makes it sound like a steel guitar.
I could degrade it by including a loudspeaker and microphone and some inevitable room acoustic in the ch ...

Yeah, more like a bread clip. I get peckish too.

Reaper is free if you can put up with prompts to buy every time you load it, but cheap if you decide to purchase.
It's as simple or as complicated as you choose to configure it. I discovered it can a ...

Stravinsky complained that harpists spend half their time tuning and the other half playing out of tune.

And before anyone asks, they tune in equal temperament Smile

Makes us look pretty cheap and primitive! Smile

This one caught my ear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnCBOfNe7cI

What Mike and Andrew say. Even though you don't have an actual D string, you still have the same D to C# change.

And the Day setup is better as the A pedal is useful in B6.

RKR is best for E low ...

It's worth pausing to consider what is meant by "universal". To some it may suggest a wonder machine that can do anything.

I see it simply as a way of combining two necks into one by shar ...

Good explanation, Fred.
The joy of this instrument us that however high you go, it's all automatically in tune as long as you keep the bar straight. Surprise your friends!

Slants aside, I always assumed that a cavity in the base of the bar was a way of moving the centre of gravity nearer the nose.

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Topic: Tabbing out Classical Music
Ian Rae Replies: 5 Views: 267	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 13 Apr 2024 3:35 pm Subject: Tabbing out Classical Music
Ian Rae Replies: 5 Views: 267	E9 is best for this kind of thing as you have all the notes of the scale available at the same fret and most of the relevant chords too. Mike Perlowin (RIP) called it the "Mozart neck".
Topic: Melodyne Essential Beginner Video
Ian Rae Replies: 5 Views: 291	Forum Section: Recording Posted: 12 Apr 2024 3:33 am Subject: Melodyne Essential Beginner Video
Ian Rae Replies: 5 Views: 291	Fear of rabbits is leporiphobia, should you hear it mentioned. I find it quite debilitating. You can do a lot of massage in Reaper, then you suddenly realise it's getting light and the birds are sing ...
Topic: Lexicon MX 200 recommended settings
Ian Rae Replies: 4 Views: 259	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 9 Apr 2024 2:42 pm Subject: Lexicon MX 200 recommended settings
Ian Rae Replies: 4 Views: 259	Mine came included in a Telonics rack system and I love it. I've never used the factory presets, but I've developed a couple of dozen of my own over the years: various different types of reverb, some ...
Topic: "Wolf tones" with Overdrive
Ian Rae Replies: 13 Views: 795	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 6 Apr 2024 7:20 am Subject: "Wolf tones" with Overdrive
Ian Rae Replies: 13 Views: 795	There you are, Paul. Ostrich boots. Case solved.
Topic: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 4 Apr 2024 3:06 pm Subject: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	I went to a uni because I liked to play both necks but didn't like to haul, let alone tune, let alone restring a D10. If C6 isn't your thing I don't see the point. Extended E9 makes more sense. ...
Topic: Uni Pedal Placement Help Please
Ian Rae Replies: 11 Views: 773	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 4 Apr 2024 2:58 pm Subject: Uni Pedal Placement Help Please
Ian Rae Replies: 11 Views: 773	I have tried the boowah in position 4 and wished it was at 8 and vice versa. It's 50/50. A while back I realised that its most frequent use is just to raise string 7 a half step, so I put that chan ...
Topic: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 4 Apr 2024 6:31 am Subject: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	What's confusing for a lot of people is the number of different "universal" tunings out there. I just see the uni as a way of changing necks without having to shift your arms! If you thi ...
Topic: "Wolf tones" with Overdrive
Ian Rae Replies: 13 Views: 795	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 3 Apr 2024 1:21 am Subject: "Wolf tones" with Overdrive
Ian Rae Replies: 13 Views: 795	I tune my steel in natural intervals, and as well as occasional overdrive I also use an Electro Harmonix Synth 9. John's explanation is very good. Intermodulation distortion is always with us and ...
Topic: Spongebob- Bobby Black
Ian Rae Replies: 5 Views: 614	Forum Section: Steel on the Web Posted: 2 Apr 2024 1:43 pm Subject: Spongebob- Bobby Black
Ian Rae Replies: 5 Views: 614	Bobby is one of the players that inspired me to learn steel. If there's one word for him it's "stylish". So cool!
Topic: The Tele ashtray
Ian Rae Replies: 2 Views: 2705	Forum Section: Music Posted: 29 Mar 2024 6:34 am Subject: The Tele ashtray
Ian Rae Replies: 2 Views: 2705	Finally got round to reading this! Interesting that on some guitars it affects the sound. Even more interesting is how guitar technique has changed so that a cover is often a nuisance. Thanks J ...
Topic: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 27 Mar 2024 6:32 am Subject: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	No way! That was my custom spec. I've had a quick look at the Williams website and I can't see a standard setup - which is sensible in my view as everyone has different ideas
Topic: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 27 Mar 2024 3:09 am Subject: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	Here's the copedent: https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/13632_Williams_setup_1.jpg
Topic: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 27 Mar 2024 2:38 am Subject: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	Upload isn't working too well at the moment but I managed this https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/13632_20240327_102451_1.jpg
Topic: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 27 Mar 2024 1:02 am Subject: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	No, but I'll attempt to take one later. The left knees are arranged in two clusters, left and central for E9 and B6. I'm not a "one big tuning" guy - I think of a uni as a condensed twin-ne ...
Topic: Excel Robostar pedal stop adjustment
Ian Rae Replies: 5 Views: 525	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 27 Mar 2024 12:54 am Subject: Excel Robostar pedal stop adjustment
Ian Rae Replies: 5 Views: 525	To adjust pedal height, use the adjusters on the pedal rod connectors.
Topic: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 26 Mar 2024 4:55 pm Subject: Buying help Williams pedal steel
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1209	I have a beautiful S12 B6/E9 universal 7+8 which will keep me busy for as long as I have.
Topic: Tracking with an Amp and a Mic vs DIRECT
Ian Rae Replies: 4 Views: 1501	Forum Section: Recording Posted: 25 Mar 2024 4:19 pm Subject: Tracking with an Amp and a Mic vs DIRECT
Ian Rae Replies: 4 Views: 1501	I use the modelled outputs from a Telonics preamp, which makes it sound like a steel guitar. I could degrade it by including a loudspeaker and microphone and some inevitable room acoustic in the ch ...
Topic: The Mystery Shim
Ian Rae Replies: 24 Views: 1669	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 24 Mar 2024 3:34 pm Subject: The Mystery Shim
Ian Rae Replies: 24 Views: 1669	Yeah, more like a bread clip. I get peckish too.
Topic: Favorite DAW for Windows 11
Ian Rae Replies: 6 Views: 431	Forum Section: Recording Posted: 22 Mar 2024 1:24 am Subject: Favorite DAW for Windows 11
Ian Rae Replies: 6 Views: 431	Reaper is free if you can put up with prompts to buy every time you load it, but cheap if you decide to purchase. It's as simple or as complicated as you choose to configure it. I discovered it can a ...
Topic: How a Pedal Harp is built. Makes a PSG look simple
Ian Rae Replies: 11 Views: 893	Forum Section: Music Posted: 21 Mar 2024 1:58 pm Subject: How a Pedal Harp is built. Makes a PSG look simple
Ian Rae Replies: 11 Views: 893	Stravinsky complained that harpists spend half their time tuning and the other half playing out of tune. And before anyone asks, they tune in equal temperament
Topic: How a Pedal Harp is built. Makes a PSG look simple
Ian Rae Replies: 11 Views: 893	Forum Section: Music Posted: 20 Mar 2024 2:10 pm Subject: How a Pedal Harp is built. Makes a PSG look simple
Ian Rae Replies: 11 Views: 893	Makes us look pretty cheap and primitive! This one caught my ear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnCBOfNe7cI
Topic: U12: IS there a standard?
Ian Rae Replies: 37 Views: 1941	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 19 Mar 2024 12:25 am Subject: U12: IS there a standard?
Ian Rae Replies: 37 Views: 1941	What Mike and Andrew say. Even though you don't have an actual D string, you still have the same D to C# change. And the Day setup is better as the A pedal is useful in B6. RKR is best for E low ...
Topic: U12: IS there a standard?
Ian Rae Replies: 37 Views: 1941	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 18 Mar 2024 12:46 pm Subject: U12: IS there a standard?
Ian Rae Replies: 37 Views: 1941	It's worth pausing to consider what is meant by "universal". To some it may suggest a wonder machine that can do anything. I see it simply as a way of combining two necks into one by shar ...
Topic: Intonation adjustment on a Pedal Steel
Ian Rae Replies: 4 Views: 487	Forum Section: Builders' Corner Posted: 14 Mar 2024 8:35 am Subject: Intonation adjustment on a Pedal Steel
Ian Rae Replies: 4 Views: 487	Good explanation, Fred. The joy of this instrument us that however high you go, it's all automatically in tune as long as you keep the bar straight. Surprise your friends!
Topic: What bullet steel has indent at base to facilitate slants?
Ian Rae Replies: 33 Views: 2147	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 13 Mar 2024 1:16 pm Subject: What bullet steel has indent at base to facilitate slants?
Ian Rae Replies: 33 Views: 2147	Slants aside, I always assumed that a cavity in the base of the bar was a way of moving the centre of gravity nearer the nose.