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I'm finding that I prefer a single neck to be on legs or a stand theses days...so I voted "uncomfortable" for a doubleneck.

C6 tuning enables it.

C6 high to low ECAGEC contains a root major triad on strings 1 2 4 and the relative minor (Am) on 1 2 3.

One could easily call this tuning Am7...which a few early sources m ...

Why not? The original Tele pickup was sort of based on Leo Fender's lap steels.

You're thinking of the Tele bridge pickup. Those Fender lap steels had, essentially, a Tele bridge pickup. I'm asking ...

Why not? The original Tele pickup was sort of based on Leo Fender's lap steels.

Haha I hear ya David. Pricing has got a little crazy in the last few years

Yeah, I've noticed that over the last 2 decades, lap steel prices have really gone up on older instruments.

Then again, ...

Thanks for the info Joe.
Wow,that price went pretty high. Maybe ebay is the place to sell!

yeah, that price seems a bit on the high side to me. I'd never pay that much for a similar lap steel.

I rarely play steel with a dirty tone. I prefer a sound more like classic electric Hawaiian guitar players.

So it doesn't matter if it's a tube, SS, or digital modeling amp - which is what I use mo ...

Steel guitar is the only instrument I play with fingerpicks!

However, I don't get the right feel and sound with anything else, although in certain past situations I've had to use a flatpick and hy ...

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/16508_David1976guitarRockgigSteel_copy_2_1.jpg

it's not my first year of steel, but it's awful close.

Me playing a National Waikiki model during a ro ...

Low to high

BDEGBD (D6?)

BDEG#C#E. (E7?)

AC#EG#BE (A6?)

just to clarify...

BDEGBD is G6

BDEG#C#E. (E7?) E13

AC#EG#BE (A6?) I've never used this but the chord is an A maj9.
...

Low to high

BDEGBD (D6?)

BDEG#C#E. (E7?)

AC#EG#BE (A6?)

just to clarify...

BDEGBD is G6

BDEG#C#E. (E7?) E13

AC#EG#BE (A6?) I've never used this but the chord is an A maj9.

Years ago, someone interviewed me for something and asked if I considered myself an artist or a musician. I answered musician, which was true at the time. I see it differently now because my mai ...

I have a great deal of respect for those of you that have focused only on steel guitar.

The steel will always be one of several instruments I love; it never will be the only one! It won't replace m ...

I'd go with C6 with a low Bb:

L-H. C Bb C E G A C E

Dave makes a good point about naming chords and tunings.

There are issue with chords built on 4ths or 5ths rather than 3rds.

This tuning has a built-in stack of 5ths, E-B-F#.

Somehow there ha ...

FWIW, the scale that the author of the first article refers to as ("newer, fresher") "jazz minor scale" has been around for ages and is properly known as the ascending melodic mino ...

I've actually tried a few times. It works better when I can see the fingerboard markers!

Its Bavarian Zither.

Yup. Think "Third Man Theme".

You pluck the melody on the fretted neck using a thumbpick while the other right hand fingers hit the bass and chord strings.

Raise the 2 lower strings a half step

G Bb C# E F# A C# E

Mikiya Matsuda tunes to E C# A F# E C# Bb G .... I think Billy Hew Len did too.

yes, it's a Billy Hew Len tuning, that's where ...

I have 2 options for the A6 tuning:

Drop the low string to E

E A C# E F# A C# E

Raise the 2 lower strings a half step

G Bb C# E F# A C# E

Here's one:

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/16508_232621437086608fe572e88a05c3665001aa1ac3521c033_copy_1.jpg

Nioma branded Magnatone.

Not according to what I've read.
Erv

It's what I've read for many years.

https://tinyurl.com/2nwt9sn2

from John ely's page

"The A major low bass was the first steel guitar tuning eve ...

The original Hawaiian tuning was A high bass and I still use it. Very Happy

Erv

I was under the impression the oldest steel tuning was A low bass.

B D E G# B E E7 is one tuning I use somewhat often - and I also use the related B D E G# C# E tuning.

Both can give a certain older style feel to appropriate music.

interesting link

http://w ...

Use the old Hawaiian E13th spelled E C# G# E D B (often called C#min7th) and you can retune to A high-bass fairly easily when needed, unlike the slightly earlier E C# G# E B E.

Good points, inc ...

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Topic: How comfortable is a double-neck steel on lap?
David M Brown Replies: 11 Views: 603	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 10 Apr 2024 6:54 am Subject: How comfortable is a double-neck steel on lap?
David M Brown Replies: 11 Views: 603	I'm finding that I prefer a single neck to be on legs or a stand theses days...so I voted "uncomfortable" for a doubleneck.
Topic: Open minor tunings for Lap Steel
David M Brown Replies: 23 Views: 1123	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 9 Apr 2024 6:28 am Subject: Open minor tunings for Lap Steel
David M Brown Replies: 23 Views: 1123	C6 tuning enables it. C6 high to low ECAGEC contains a root major triad on strings 1 2 4 and the relative minor (Am) on 1 2 3. One could easily call this tuning Am7...which a few early sources m ...
Topic: Telecaster neck pickup on lap steel?
David M Brown Replies: 14 Views: 885	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 31 Mar 2024 7:30 pm Subject: Telecaster neck pickup on lap steel?
David M Brown Replies: 14 Views: 885	Why not? The original Tele pickup was sort of based on Leo Fender's lap steels. You're thinking of the Tele bridge pickup. Those Fender lap steels had, essentially, a Tele bridge pickup. I'm asking ...
Topic: Telecaster neck pickup on lap steel?
David M Brown Replies: 14 Views: 885	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 30 Mar 2024 7:41 am Subject: Telecaster neck pickup on lap steel?
David M Brown Replies: 14 Views: 885	Why not? The original Tele pickup was sort of based on Leo Fender's lap steels.
Topic: Supro dual 6
David M Brown Replies: 14 Views: 1082	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 16 Mar 2024 10:36 am Subject: Supro dual 6
David M Brown Replies: 14 Views: 1082	Haha I hear ya David. Pricing has got a little crazy in the last few years Yeah, I've noticed that over the last 2 decades, lap steel prices have really gone up on older instruments. Then again, ...
Topic: Supro dual 6
David M Brown Replies: 14 Views: 1082	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 15 Mar 2024 11:56 am Subject: Supro dual 6
David M Brown Replies: 14 Views: 1082	Thanks for the info Joe. Wow,that price went pretty high. Maybe ebay is the place to sell! yeah, that price seems a bit on the high side to me. I'd never pay that much for a similar lap steel.
Topic: Amplification question for 6-string non-pedal players...
David M Brown Replies: 8 Views: 697	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 15 Mar 2024 11:52 am Subject: Amplification question for 6-string non-pedal players...
David M Brown Replies: 8 Views: 697	I rarely play steel with a dirty tone. I prefer a sound more like classic electric Hawaiian guitar players. So it doesn't matter if it's a tube, SS, or digital modeling amp - which is what I use mo ...
Topic: Finger picks or no finger picks?
David M Brown Replies: 50 Views: 4336	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 19 Feb 2024 6:17 am Subject: Finger picks or no finger picks?
David M Brown Replies: 50 Views: 4336	Steel guitar is the only instrument I play with fingerpicks! However, I don't get the right feel and sound with anything else, although in certain past situations I've had to use a flatpick and hy ...
Topic: Got Any Pictures Of Your First Year Playing Lap Steel???
David M Brown Replies: 15 Views: 1718	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 8 Feb 2024 5:48 pm Subject: Got Any Pictures Of Your First Year Playing Lap Steel???
David M Brown Replies: 15 Views: 1718	https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/16508_David1976guitarRockgigSteel_copy_2_1.jpg it's not my first year of steel, but it's awful close. Me playing a National Waikiki model during a ro ...
Topic: Sucked down the rabbit hole! (Beyond open C, D and G)
David M Brown Replies: 10 Views: 1035	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 17 Jan 2024 4:54 am Subject: Sucked down the rabbit hole! (Beyond open C, D and G)
David M Brown Replies: 10 Views: 1035	Low to high BDEGBD (D6?) BDEG#C#E. (E7?) AC#EG#BE (A6?) just to clarify... BDEGBD is G6 BDEG#C#E. (E7?) E13 AC#EG#BE (A6?) I've never used this but the chord is an A maj9. ...
Topic: Sucked down the rabbit hole! (Beyond open C, D and G)
David M Brown Replies: 10 Views: 1035	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 16 Jan 2024 11:58 am Subject: Sucked down the rabbit hole! (Beyond open C, D and G)
David M Brown Replies: 10 Views: 1035	Low to high BDEGBD (D6?) BDEG#C#E. (E7?) AC#EG#BE (A6?) just to clarify... BDEGBD is G6 BDEG#C#E. (E7?) E13 AC#EG#BE (A6?) I've never used this but the chord is an A maj9.
Topic: Making a full-time commitment to steel guitar
David M Brown Replies: 19 Views: 2970	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 1 Jan 2024 4:26 am Subject: Making a full-time commitment to steel guitar
David M Brown Replies: 19 Views: 2970	Years ago, someone interviewed me for something and asked if I considered myself an artist or a musician. I answered musician, which was true at the time. I see it differently now because my mai ...
Topic: Making a full-time commitment to steel guitar
David M Brown Replies: 19 Views: 2970	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 30 Dec 2023 5:06 am Subject: Making a full-time commitment to steel guitar
David M Brown Replies: 19 Views: 2970	I have a great deal of respect for those of you that have focused only on steel guitar. The steel will always be one of several instruments I love; it never will be the only one! It won't replace m ...
Topic: Second tuning for D8?
David M Brown Replies: 3 Views: 965	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 2 Dec 2023 7:22 pm Subject: Second tuning for D8?
David M Brown Replies: 3 Views: 965	I'd go with C6 with a low Bb: L-H. C Bb C E G A C E
Topic: EBEF#BE Is There A Name For This Tuning
David M Brown Replies: 6 Views: 1886	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 22 Nov 2023 3:09 pm Subject: EBEF#BE Is There A Name For This Tuning
David M Brown Replies: 6 Views: 1886	Dave makes a good point about naming chords and tunings. There are issue with chords built on 4ths or 5ths rather than 3rds. This tuning has a built-in stack of 5ths, E-B-F#. Somehow there ha ...
Topic: Some theory for playing in Minor keys
David M Brown Replies: 22 Views: 4181	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 6 Oct 2023 3:34 pm Subject: Re: minor keys
David M Brown Replies: 22 Views: 4181	FWIW, the scale that the author of the first article refers to as ("newer, fresher") "jazz minor scale" has been around for ages and is properly known as the ascending melodic mino ...
Topic: So...could you play your steel without looking?
David M Brown Replies: 14 Views: 1589	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 14 Sep 2023 6:31 am Subject: So...could you play your steel without looking?
David M Brown Replies: 14 Views: 1589	I've actually tried a few times. It works better when I can see the fingerboard markers!
Topic: Another strange bird spotted in antique store
David M Brown Replies: 7 Views: 1442	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 4 Sep 2023 5:01 am Subject: Another strange bird spotted in antique store
David M Brown Replies: 7 Views: 1442	Its Bavarian Zither. Yup. Think "Third Man Theme". You pluck the melody on the fretted neck using a thumbpick while the other right hand fingers hit the bass and chord strings.
Topic: Best way to use low strings
David M Brown Replies: 15 Views: 1894	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 15 Jul 2023 11:05 am Subject: Best way to use low strings
David M Brown Replies: 15 Views: 1894	Raise the 2 lower strings a half step G Bb C# E F# A C# E Mikiya Matsuda tunes to E C# A F# E C# Bb G .... I think Billy Hew Len did too. yes, it's a Billy Hew Len tuning, that's where ...
Topic: Best way to use low strings
David M Brown Replies: 15 Views: 1894	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 14 Jul 2023 4:03 am Subject: Best way to use low strings
David M Brown Replies: 15 Views: 1894	I have 2 options for the A6 tuning: Drop the low string to E E A C# E F# A C# E Raise the 2 lower strings a half step G Bb C# E F# A C# E
Topic: Show us your Dickerson (or any MOTS steel)
David M Brown Replies: 24 Views: 3213	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 2 Jul 2023 5:57 am Subject: Show us your Dickerson (or any MOTS steel)
David M Brown Replies: 24 Views: 3213	Here's one: https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/16508_232621437086608fe572e88a05c3665001aa1ac3521c033_copy_1.jpg Nioma branded Magnatone.
Topic: C#m7 VS A tuning for Tricone
David M Brown Replies: 20 Views: 2682	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 17 Jun 2023 2:59 pm Subject: C#m7 VS A tuning for Tricone
David M Brown Replies: 20 Views: 2682	Not according to what I've read. Erv It's what I've read for many years. https://tinyurl.com/2nwt9sn2 from John ely's page "The A major low bass was the first steel guitar tuning eve ...
Topic: C#m7 VS A tuning for Tricone
David M Brown Replies: 20 Views: 2682	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 17 Jun 2023 8:18 am Subject: C#m7 VS A tuning for Tricone
David M Brown Replies: 20 Views: 2682	The original Hawaiian tuning was A high bass and I still use it. Erv I was under the impression the oldest steel tuning was A low bass.
Topic: E7 Tuning for Six String Lap Steel: Blue Country Delight
David M Brown Replies: 1 Views: 725	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 17 Jun 2023 6:22 am Subject: E7 Tuning for Six String Lap Steel: Blue Country Delight
David M Brown Replies: 1 Views: 725	B D E G# B E E7 is one tuning I use somewhat often - and I also use the related B D E G# C# E tuning. Both can give a certain older style feel to appropriate music. interesting link http://w ...
Topic: C#m7 VS A tuning for Tricone
David M Brown Replies: 20 Views: 2682	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 14 Jun 2023 6:00 am Subject: C#m7 VS A tuning for Tricone
David M Brown Replies: 20 Views: 2682	Use the old Hawaiian E13th spelled E C# G# E D B (often called C#min7th) and you can retune to A high-bass fairly easily when needed, unlike the slightly earlier E C# G# E B E. Good points, inc ...