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Bill R. Baker


From:
Clinton, MS USA
Post Posted 17 Sep 2004 12:05 pm     Reply with quote

I need the Jerry Byrd tuning (c6th) for six string lap steel and also the string guage for each string. My father bought me this steel more than 55 years ago and I have had it in a closet for years. I took it out yesterday and it still sounds pretty good.
The key knobs have decayed. I have ordered a new set. The scale is 23". Thanks.
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Jeff Au Hoy


From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
Post Posted 17 Sep 2004 12:12 pm     Reply with quote

Ray Montee will be with you shortly.

He is currently vacationing in Hawai'i.

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Chris Scruggs


From:
Nashville, Tennessee, USA
Post Posted 17 Sep 2004 12:28 pm     Reply with quote

Here are Jerry's note's and gauges for six string:

E.015p
C.018p
A.022p
G.024p
E.030w
C.034w

Keep in mind that the .24 is a plain string, NOT wound. I personally prefer a .024 wound, but Byrd uses a plain. For C6/A7, tune the sixth string up to C#. That makes the high five strings C6, and the low four A7.

Chris Scruggs
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Jeff Au Hoy


From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
Post Posted 17 Sep 2004 12:49 pm     Reply with quote

By the way, I've had the opportunity all week to experience Ray Montee's artistry on his pre-war bakelite, the four top strings like this:

E - .016
C - .016
A - .016
G - .020

This is Jerry's "1947" setup... and believe me, if you want Jerry's bakelite sound... this is the way to get it. I've heard it now with my own ears and am convinced. Of course, that's only a part of it---you will also have to get Ray to play your steel for you.
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Bob Snelgrove


From:
san jose, ca
Post Posted 17 Sep 2004 12:52 pm     Reply with quote

Hey Jeff,

How about the bottom 2 strings?

Mahalo,

bob
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Bob Stone


From:
Gainesville, FL, USA
Post Posted 17 Sep 2004 1:41 pm     Reply with quote

Jeff - Have you played a steel with the three .016s on top? How does it feel? Do you think it's paractical for general use (swing, etc.), or just good for Byrd-style Hawaiian?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Anyone else who has experience with this configuration chime in too.

[This message was edited by Bob Stone on 17 September 2004 at 02:42 PM.]

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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post Posted 17 Sep 2004 2:18 pm     Reply with quote

Ray clued me into this "JB secret" several years ago ... I didn't try it for a long time (old ways die hard).

When I did try it ... well read this ...
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/004247.html

I am now sold on C6/A7 "short scale" ...

0.017 E
0.018 C
0.020 A
0.022 G (plain)
0.032 E (flatwound)
0.036 C# (flatwound)

... for what its worth ...



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John Bechtel


From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
Post Posted 18 Sep 2004 11:30 pm     Reply with quote

Howard White and Jerry Byrd used to pal around together and they both got their 7-str. Trot Moores about the same time and Howard tells me that the first (3)-strings on that guitar are .012p and then #4 is .024p. That takes care of E–C–A–G and then I am unaware of what is used for #'s 5, 6, 7, but; they are tuned E–C#–A respectively. Howard played steel on many many Hank Snow recordings! He plays through a Fender Deluxe Reverb Amp. and sounds very ‘Byrd-ish’! (If that's the proper word!) He also plays La Golondrina!

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Bill R. Baker


From:
Clinton, MS USA
Post Posted 27 Sep 2004 6:44 am     Reply with quote

Thanks for all the responses.
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