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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2004 7:10 am    
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Steel Guitar Black Boxes are now available including models for Europe, Japan, UK, Austrailia, NZ, etc.
www.steelguitarblackbox.com


Brad Sarno
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Willis Vanderberg


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Petoskey Mi
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2004 6:47 pm    
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Brad:
I sent the funds via PayPal two minutes ago ..Thank you
Old Bud
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Bruce Bouton

 

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Nash. Tn USA
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2004 7:40 pm    
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I got one a few weeks ago. It's one of the best moves I've made in some time. i'll report more on the black Box later,
Thanks Brad!
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2004 9:49 pm    
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Way to go Brad. Keep up the good work.
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Jerry Roller


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Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 29 Jul 2004 7:14 am    
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I have had mine about a two months and would not want to be without it.
Jerry
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 29 Jul 2004 10:16 am    
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I was asking what it was - then I saw the 'link'!



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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 30 Jul 2004 7:38 am    
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Still available.
www.steelguitarblackbox.com


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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 31 Jul 2004 6:42 am    
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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 31 Jul 2004 6:57 am    
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Brad, any chance for one with a tuner output for St Louis????
I'd grab one like that there if I could.

You should make one available for use of all players on stage at ISGC...
best sales move you could ever make IMHO.
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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 31 Jul 2004 8:30 am    
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Brad,

Any chance of doing an A/B recording clip with/without the BB? I'd love to get a general idea of what is does and how it effects the overall tone?

Also, does it add *any* noise?

thx

bob
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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 1 Aug 2004 9:30 am    
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David, send me an email, let's talk about that tuner output.

Bob, I haven't made any audio clips yet, but it's a good idea. It's funny, I had Danny Muhammed on the phone the other day. He just got a Black Box and really likes it. He was playing back a recording over the phone that had one version with the BB and one without. I could clearly hear the difference even over the phone. The midrange was dense and kind of harsh without it. With the BB, the notes came right thru the phone real clear and distinct. It ain't subtle I guess. I'll try and figure out how to post audio on my website so others can hear the A/B factor.

Brad
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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 1 Aug 2004 12:41 pm    
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Thanks, Brad

I think that would help us fence sitters


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Morton Kellas

 

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Chazy, NY, USA 1
Post  Posted 1 Aug 2004 4:10 pm    
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I also purchased a Black Box and have to admit that it the best investment I have made for tone enhancement in a long time.
Well worth the money.
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Ford Cole

 

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Texas
Post  Posted 1 Aug 2004 7:28 pm    
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Question..How does the Black Box work with the Hilton Volumn Pedal? Is there any duplication in what they do and are they compatible? Thanks! fc
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Morton Kellas

 

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Chazy, NY, USA 1
Post  Posted 2 Aug 2004 5:56 am    
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Hi! FC:
I would have to refer you to Brad for the question about duplication. I use mine with a Hilton and they are definitely compatible. In fact, they seem like they were made for each other.

[This message was edited by Morton Kellas on 02 August 2004 at 10:04 AM.]

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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 2 Aug 2004 8:19 am    
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The Hilton does properly buffer the input, that is one of it's great strengths.
With a high quality solidstate stage.

But Brad's box does this with true audiophile quality tube / pickup interaction.
Like plugging in directly to a $75,000 audiophile tube home stereo and no pedal.
Just your steel and perfection.

This being one of the reasons many players just love their tube amps to death... until they move them to the car.

This tube to pickup interaction is at the heart of a good sound, then you send it to a Hilton and there is no degradation by the pot, since there is no pot pickup contact,,

The Hilton smoothly controls your optimised tube sweetened and properly buffered signal out to your amp.

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Dave Ristrim


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Whites Creek, TN
Post  Posted 2 Aug 2004 10:17 am    
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I just have to say I love my Sarno Black Box. It sounds to me like it evens out the tone without really compressing it. Mellows it, without making it muddy, adds a "mastered" like sound to the steel.
Dave Ristrim
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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 3 Aug 2004 6:44 am    
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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 4 Aug 2004 7:55 am    
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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 5 Aug 2004 7:59 am    
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See new quote from Mike Johnson!
www.steelguitarblackbox.com


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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 5 Aug 2004 9:47 pm    
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Brad,

Does the BB add any gain or volume?

thx

bob
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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 6 Aug 2004 2:27 pm    
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The Black Box adds only about 1.5dB of gain. That's pretty darn close to unity (zero gain). So I wouldn't call it a significant boost by any means.

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Auset Sarno

 

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St. Louis, Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 7 Aug 2004 6:39 am    
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Here's a well deserved bump... What a great device.

Auset
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Gabriel Aaron Wynne


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Johnson Valley, CA
Post  Posted 8 Aug 2004 7:41 am    
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With all due respect, what can this pre-amp do that any other rack mount tube pre-amp can't? I mean, you can get pretty much any tube pre-amp with all the knobs in the world for around or less than 3 bills. . . most people can't tell the difference between the tube sounds that the Roland GP 100 can generate, and that unit comes with a tuner. . . you know, to get your E. This black box has peaked my interest, but $313.50 and one more thing to hook up to my rig seems a bit drastic.
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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 8 Aug 2004 7:52 am    
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The box connects an audiophile quality tube preamp directly to your pick up,
causing a coupling which is sonicly very advantageous. They used to do this with turntable needles back in the day.

After that you can do what you like with it through pedals, amps, consoles etc.

But I don't know of another device that does this.

And plugging into your best ever pedal and then into the best tube amp isn't the same thing.
Still got the pedal in the way.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 08 August 2004 at 08:53 AM.]

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 08 August 2004 at 08:55 AM.]

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