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Topic: SHeDAISY - WHAT THE HE**!!!!! |
Abe Stoklasa
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Posted 8 Jan 2001 8:01 pm |
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Did anyone see what they performed on the AMC awards! Come On, That's Totally over the line of country, even for today's standards. I Mean, Everybody crosses the line today. Even Ole George Strait and Alan Jackson cross the line sometimes! What is Country Coming to, well maybe I should say, What has it came to! There is no feeling in songs, No one can hit their notes, it aint country! The Only way I can hear good ole COUNTRY Music is to listen to ole videos on the Internet! That's not right! I have to admit, The Grand Ole Opry still is country for the most part, but even they cross the line! This is pathetic! If a 13 year old boy like myself can realize that there is something terribly wrong here, then why can't the people of Nashville realize it! I used to respect that city, defended that city, and cherished that city, but now I SPIT on that city for what the young 23 year olds in that city have done to it, not having a clue what country music is and where it came from! Now, I know there is a market for Traditional Country Music, So Don't tell me there ain't! Otherwise, there ain't no reason for them people to call it country! I mean, what were they thinking of changing it! What made them think that there was anything wrong with it! Now, I'm not saying it is nessesarily bad music, But Ain't no way in heck COUNTRY! I Just hope when I get older and go to Nashville, It will be willing to change, because if they think that I'm gonna set back and let this happen, they got another thing coming! I could go on and on for Hours, but It's my bedtime! I'll be up in the morning with more! I aint givin country music up that easy! Not without a fight! Not without COUNTRY MUSIC BACK!!!!!
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Abraham - MSA D-10 Pedal steel, standel amp, George L 10-string bar, 2 finger picks and 1 thumb pick.
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Abe Stoklasa
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 5:08 am
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Hey! I'm back! I think I might have gotten a little carried away last night! I was just really mad at that! I mean, I still believe what I wrote, I just think I shouldn't of put it on the forum! Oh Well, I smell a debate!
P. S. I had a good sleep!
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Abraham - MSA D-10 Pedal steel, standel amp, George L 10-string bar, 2 finger picks and 1 thumb pick.
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tim duvall
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greensburg,pa,usa
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 6:12 am
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| My sister got me george strait's box set for christmas and there is a biography book with it. I think it is interesting that when he went to nashville, to try to cut a record, he almost didn't get a label because he was too country. Imagine that. At that time, Dolly, Ronnie McDowel (sp??) and others were recording cross-overs and that seemed to be the way the genre was going. Then george came along and the critics blasted him. I like his comments though. He said something like I don;t care what the critics say. As long as the people like my music, I'll continue to record my style. So, who knows? maybe there is a newcomer somewhere that will turn country around like george strait did. But the way, the box set is awesome!! |
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Mark Tomeo
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 10:02 am
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David Pennybaker
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Conroe, TX USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 10:55 am
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What'd they sing? "(Tonight) It's Just Me" ??
Call me crazy, but I like that song. Country? Not really, I guess. But I doubt it'd get airplay on "pop" radio.
Never seen them live, so can't really comment on off-key or not. Seems like they were off on an awards show back in October, though. On the album, they're fine. No idea how much of that was "doctored" or how many takes, etc, though.
Edited to add: the video for that song is really, really bad, though. I don't understand it at all.
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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
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C Dixon
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Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 1:39 pm
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Did I read you correctcly? Did you say you were only 13 yrs old?
God bless you,
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 2:01 pm
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| I'm moving this to the Music forum. |
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Abe Stoklasa
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 2:22 pm
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First of all, I Think George Strait is Probably Country's Most Respected person, has a great western swing style, and I like his music. Most of it is country, but some's not! Which really doesn't look that bad compared to today's stuff! SHeDAISY sang "I WILL" (I bet someone spent a lifetime writing that song - I WILL I WILL I WILL I WILL I WILL) But It wasn't even what people call country today! These people been in the business like a month, and they are already trying to change it to the worse. You just had to hear it! It's unexplainable (That Bad - A Mixture of Britney Spears, Eminem, and Kid Rock)! Country Music is, In my opinion, feeling, a good beat, SIMPLE - which doesn't mean REPETITIVE, Feeling, Steel guitar and guitar and fiddle, Good lyrics with a good beat to go with it, And so you can understand the words, FEELING!!!! And, Yes I realize the war has been going on for at least 30 years! I know what's going on! It's sad that John Hughey, Paul Franklin, and Some of the others will be out of a job pretty soon due to lack of COUNTRY with Steel Guitar. That's Definetly not right! I just don't get why they have to put this on the market! It ain't worth listening to, regardless what kind of music it is! I gotta go do the chores, so I'll be on later! Bye
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Abraham - MSA D-10 Pedal steel, standel amp, George L 10-string bar, 2 finger picks and 1 thumb pick.
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Abe Stoklasa
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 2:24 pm
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Yeah I'm 13!
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Abe Stoklasa
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 2:25 pm
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And I guess it was the AMA awards not the AMC awards! I get mixed up this time of year! So many Initials, so little time!
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Abraham - MSA D-10 Pedal steel, standel amp, George L 10-string bar, 2 finger picks and 1 thumb pick.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 5:02 pm
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It's an entirely new kind of music. One that emphasizes looks as paramount, and everything else, secondary. And what shall we call this new music? Someone had suggested "Bubble-Gum Country". (I liked that one.) But, my own humble suggestion is...
Hormone Country! 
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Abe Stoklasa
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 8:28 pm
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I'm sorry Donny, Did you say music? HEHE Anyway, they ought to call it PORNO COUNRY, or something, because all they are doing is selling sex, because they can't make it on their music ability!!
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Abraham - MSA D-10 Pedal steel, standel amp, George L 10-string bar, 2 finger picks and 1 thumb pick.
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Joe Casey
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 8:44 pm
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I'd love to jump in here and comment on the She Daiseys however I have never heard them and I hope never will..From what I understand it's more sell bullcrap from what use to be the home of Country Music....He who don't listen ain't never gonna be offended..or buy the crap....If they got a steel they must be Country....what Country you figure out...
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David Pennybaker
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Conroe, TX USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2001 9:06 pm
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Hey, Abraham!
Have you heard their CD? The music's actually good. Country? Well, certainly not like Kenney Chesney or George Strait or Alan Jackson or Brad Paisley.
Sex sells, huh? Hmmmmm, if I were putting out a group based on that philosophy, I'd probably use somebody else. Not that they aren't attractive, but I could probably find something most guys would find a little "hotter". (Actually, the red-head is kinda cute).
Nice guitar, BTW -- I've got the MSA S-12 Universal. Just wish I'd started playing it when I was your age. I'm almost 37, and I just started a few months ago. This certainly isn't a piano!
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frank rogers
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Posted 10 Jan 2001 8:14 am
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| This "singing" group is one of the poorest excuses for any style of music that I've ever heard. Bad songs, Amateurish harmonies, and overall weak vocals. And to make matters even worse, they plagerized the entire "I will I will" refrain from that great country duo of the 70's, Captain and Tenille. |
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FIONA TOMANY
From:
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Posted 10 Jan 2001 11:02 am
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MAYBE IF FOLKS STOPPED BUYING THOSE ALBUMS THYE WILL NOT GET SIGNED AGAIN.
I CALL IT ACCOUNTANTS COUNTRY.
On this side of the pond Shania Twain gets lots of air play.
I got into an arugment with my 17 year old niece who wouldn 't have it that Shania Twain was not country.
Have you checked out Dale Watson |
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Dave Van Allen
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Posted 10 Jan 2001 12:29 pm
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| Have you checked out Dale Watson |
Dale almost "checked out" recently...
that would have been a true loss to the cause of Country Music |
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John Steele
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 10 Jan 2001 12:38 pm
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Frank! That's astounding that you mention that. When I first heard that wailed "I Will" in the middle of that song, I so expected to hear the "Love will keep us together" line right after it... Now I know I'm not imagining it.
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Abe Stoklasa
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 10 Jan 2001 3:17 pm
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Well, First of all, thanks for the compliments on my steel! It's wonderful! But, I don't agree with the comment about the steel guitar - If they have a steel guitar, it must be country! In most cases, I would be right beside you, but nowadays, from what I've heard on the radio, the steel only plays a couple of notes for the whole song! That's what I disagree! If they only play that many notes, why bother putting them on the song? I'll tell you why! They are trying to disguise their pop/crap with a true country instrument to try and get more sales by posing as country!
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Abraham - MSA D-10 Pedal steel, standel amp, George L 10-string bar, 2 finger picks and 1 thumb pick.
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Donny Hinson
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Posted 10 Jan 2001 4:33 pm
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| Very astute, Abraham. Go to the head of the class! |
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David Pennybaker
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Posted 10 Jan 2001 5:09 pm
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| But, I don't agree with the comment about the steel guitar - If they have a steel guitar, it must be country! |
He was making a joke, Abraham.  That's why he followed up with "guess what country" (or something like that).
I don't think the steel guitar has to be there during the entire song to make it "country". Believe it or not, the steel CAN be overdone (heresy, I know ). Many times, "less is more".
I'd have to listen to "I Will (Be Your Everything)" again. I'm not sure if there's a steel in there or not. But I won't argue if you don't want to call SheDaisy "country". I'd probably agree with you on that. But I am glad I've heard their music -- I like it. If it were only on "pop" radio, I wouldn't get to hear it. Plus, I don't really think they'd play it on "pop" radio.
How about some of Mark Wills' songs? Several of them have been done by pop artists, too. (Plus, one or two by John Michael Montgomery). I've always preferred the "country" version of those songs. It's better music, IMO. Primarily becasue of the steel guitar. But also it's in the copletely arrangement, the style, and the vocal style as well.
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David Pennybaker
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Conroe, TX USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2001 5:37 pm
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Well, I don't want to start a whole thread on this, and it is SheDaisy related. You ought to get a kick out of THIS!
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1402399261
Oh, I didn't see the awards show. I just talked with a friend, though. She said that SheDaisy's version of "I Will (Be Your Everything)", (aka "The Whole SheBang") wasn't performed at all like it was on the CD. She said they did a "rock" version of it.
Too bad (or is it? ) I didn't see it, becasue then I could comment. I doubt I would've liked it much. But I do like the version on the CD (which is what plays on the radio). I wonder what they do in concerts?
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David Pennybaker
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Posted 10 Jan 2001 5:45 pm
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| They are trying to disguise their pop/crap with a true country instrument to try and get more sales by posing as country! |
Hmmmm, I think you've (unintentionally?) insulted listeners of country music with that one. The implication is that "pop" listeners are too "smart" to listen to their music (too "bubble gum" ?), and that the only way they can be marketed and make money is to market it as country to the "dumb hicks" that listen to country music.
Don't worry, though! I'm pretty thick-skinned about it. I like the music I like, and it doesn't matter much if others like it or not.
It does intrigue me, though, why singers like Faith Hill, etc. get marketed through country music, when they go so "pop" on the second and later albums. Is there some reason for this? Is it cheaper to test-market an act in the country genre? Does the artist change his/her tastes, or is it the record label? Kinda baffling, really.
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Abe Stoklasa
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 10 Jan 2001 6:23 pm
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I wasn't trying to insult anybody, I'm just saying that they think that if they put in a country instrument in a couple of lines, they can get away with calling it Country. Which it's not. And, You don't have to have steel guitar to make a song country. I agree! You can't explain country. It's just a thing you know I guess. I think country music is just feeling really! Today, people repeat the same ole lyrics throughout the song (I WILL I WILL I WILL I WILL, etc.), and they are more concerned with hitting notes and selling sex more than feeling! If it aint got feeling, it's just crap! You gotta have both, feeling and notes!! George Strait and Alan Jackson, and George Jones, put feeling in songs! That's why they are so big!! People like Leann Rimes that just swayed back and forth between the lines of country and pop are bound to fail! She's like, i dunno, 17 and she's already a hasbeen!! I rest my case!
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Abraham - MSA D-10 Pedal steel, standel amp, George L 10-string bar, 2 finger picks and 1 thumb pick.
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David Pennybaker
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Posted 10 Jan 2001 6:42 pm
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| I'm just saying that they think that if they put in a country instrument in a couple of lines, they can get away with calling it Country. |
I assume they put a steel guitar in when they feel it adds to the song.
Just had an interesting discussion with an online friend of mine. She's closer to our age (16, I think), and listens more to pop than I do (I rarely do at all). According to her, pop has become more rappish / techno lately -- and so things that were once considered pop actually sound more like country than what gets called pop.
There's probably some truth in that.
That's the problem with labels. To keep them down to a manageable number, they have to be quite broad. As a specific genre moves more towards one side than another, the parts that are left behind may begin to sound more like a different (somewhat related) genre. These categories DO overlap to some extent.
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