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Topic: C6: a miniscule change |
Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 7 Apr 2024 11:28 am |
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I used to have P4 raising 6 and lowering 2 (Reverse P6), and my MKV raising 10 (D) and 6 to F.
After talking with Buck Reid, he suggested combining those two and adding the 10th raise to P4.
I did, but that left MKV redundant. Initially, I put the old P4 on that (As to B), but today I thought: my RKR is raising the As a half-step. It requires a somewhat vague half-stop (when the E9 2nd is lowered a half).
How much easier, I thought, to have As to Bs on RKR (pushing through until the 'stop') and to put the half-tone As-raiser on MKV?
I can't see a downside - yet.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Dale Rottacker
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Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 8 Apr 2024 6:53 am
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Old P4 is probably the most redundant pedal, Dale. However, since amalgamating those two pulls, I found I had a 'spare' KL (MKV) - in any case, that A to B change sounds good with P5 so it's far from useless.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Dale Rottacker
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Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Posted 9 Apr 2024 5:35 am
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| Roger Rettig wrote: |
| Old P4 is probably the most redundant pedal, Dale. However, since amalgamating those two pulls, I found I had a 'spare' KL (MKV) - in any case, that A to B change sounds good with P5 so it's far from useless. |
I apologize for the misread ... I wish I had another place to put the "Original P4" ... The similarity I guess I have with your MKV would be on my MKL where I lower the 5th string G>F and the 10 goes to D. I've recently been wearing my MKV out where I raise the A's>Bb, and then use it in conjunction with my 5th pedal for a 7#11 (maybe my new favorite chord, think 2nd chord in the beginning of Take The A Train)
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Dale Rottacker, Steelinatune™
*2021 MSA Legend, "Jolly Rancher" D10 10x9
*2021 Rittenberry, "The Concord" D10 9x9
*1977 Blue Sho-Bud Pro 3 Custom 8x6
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 9 Apr 2024 6:15 am
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Not quite, Dale, respectfully..
It's in C and the second chord is D9#11. Except that it's the 5th pedal along with lowering the As.
Try it: the melody is laying right in front of you.
If you use P5 and raise the As, that's D9 with an augmented 5th; not the right chord for 'A Train'.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Dale Rottacker
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Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Posted 9 Apr 2024 6:55 am
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| Roger Rettig wrote: |
Not quite, Dale, respectfully..
It's in C and the second chord is D9#11. Except that it's the 5th pedal along with lowering the As.
Try it: the melody is laying right in front of you.
If you use P5 and raise the As, that's D9 with an augmented 5th; not the right chord for 'A Train'. |
I have been known to confuse things… I was going by what the chart said the chord was 
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Dale Rottacker, Steelinatune™
*2021 MSA Legend, "Jolly Rancher" D10 10x9
*2021 Rittenberry, "The Concord" D10 9x9
*1977 Blue Sho-Bud Pro 3 Custom 8x6
https://msapedalsteels.com
http://rittenberrysteelguitars.com
https://www.telonics.com/index.php
https://www.p2pamps.com
https://www.quilterlabs.com |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 9 Apr 2024 7:04 am
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D7#11 is okay too, Dale. It's the A-lower that gives us the #11th.
Try the same thing on E9:
1,5,6,9 at the 10th with the B string lowered a half.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Andrew Frost
From:
Toronto, Ontario
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Posted 10 Apr 2024 4:42 pm
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| With an old school G on top, the D9#11 is (was?) all on P5, if you have that G to G# raise. |
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