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Topic: U12: IS there a standard? |
Roger Rettig
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Posted 19 Mar 2024 1:04 pm |
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If I stay with Uni, I will switch ABC for CBA (my preference); thanks, Bobby.
I can't wait to try this guitar 'out of the box' and see the logic of Uni for myself. I can deal with 'ABC' for a week or so. 
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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John Sims
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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Posted 20 Mar 2024 7:02 am
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I like lowering the E on RKL.
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Regards,
John
Steelin' is a way of life!
1997 Carter U-12 Double Body-Natural Birdseye Maple-8p/5k, Peavey Nashville 1000 Amp, Goodrich L10K Vol. Pedal, Boss DD-3 Delay, Boss CE-5 Chorus, Behringer UMC-204HD Audio Interface, AKAI MPK Mini MK3 Professional Midi Keyboard/Controller, Gretsch Bobtail Resonator, Fender Banjo, Rondo SX Lap Steel (C6), DIY Lap Steel (Open D), a few Mojo Hand Cigar Box Guitars (MojoHandGuitars.com). |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 20 Mar 2024 7:08 am
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Universal B6th side at first for me seemed thin sounding but after awhile it came together and sounds good now.
Very happy with my move.
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 20 Mar 2024 8:06 am
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Maybe I should just switch the pedals (from ABC to CBA) in order to give the tuning a fair shot.
Right now, the Es raise on LKL; that will need to go to LKR.
The big 'IF": if I were to switch the E lower to LKL (where I'm used to having it), could I still reach all seven pedals? That'll depend on how far to the left the KLs are affixed - I can't judge that until it gets here tomorrow.
My main concern regarding the lack of a D string is fear of cabinet-drop affecting tuning when I 'create' the D note with RKL; that's a long way up, and I depend upon that as a root note a lot.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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John Sims
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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Posted 20 Mar 2024 9:18 am
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I can reach them with no problem, however I'm 6'2" and long legs! Here is a diagram JD Sauser made for my guitar that explains the positioning of the pedals and KL's. I think www.Outwestcountry.ca has rods and pedals if you need them.
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Regards,
John
Steelin' is a way of life!
1997 Carter U-12 Double Body-Natural Birdseye Maple-8p/5k, Peavey Nashville 1000 Amp, Goodrich L10K Vol. Pedal, Boss DD-3 Delay, Boss CE-5 Chorus, Behringer UMC-204HD Audio Interface, AKAI MPK Mini MK3 Professional Midi Keyboard/Controller, Gretsch Bobtail Resonator, Fender Banjo, Rondo SX Lap Steel (C6), DIY Lap Steel (Open D), a few Mojo Hand Cigar Box Guitars (MojoHandGuitars.com). |
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John Sims
From:
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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Posted 30 Mar 2024 4:21 pm
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Roger, did you get the U-12? Tell us what you think and have done to it!
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Regards,
John
Steelin' is a way of life!
1997 Carter U-12 Double Body-Natural Birdseye Maple-8p/5k, Peavey Nashville 1000 Amp, Goodrich L10K Vol. Pedal, Boss DD-3 Delay, Boss CE-5 Chorus, Behringer UMC-204HD Audio Interface, AKAI MPK Mini MK3 Professional Midi Keyboard/Controller, Gretsch Bobtail Resonator, Fender Banjo, Rondo SX Lap Steel (C6), DIY Lap Steel (Open D), a few Mojo Hand Cigar Box Guitars (MojoHandGuitars.com). |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 31 Mar 2024 3:08 am
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John
Full disclosure:
Yes, I got the Zum and found it a real gem. However, and this was my second foray into 12-string territory, a day later and when I was at my weakest ( ), someone asked me for first refusal should I sell it. As he's a U12 player already, I found myself parting with the Zum before I had even switched a pedal!!
I hereby state publicly that I shall remain a D10 player for the rest of my days. Should I ever even mention 'that nice 12 string on the Forum', I hope everyone will rap me on the knuckles and remind me of my words.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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John Sims
From:
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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Posted 31 Mar 2024 3:53 am
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I know how you feel Roger! Happy Easter!
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Regards,
John
Steelin' is a way of life!
1997 Carter U-12 Double Body-Natural Birdseye Maple-8p/5k, Peavey Nashville 1000 Amp, Goodrich L10K Vol. Pedal, Boss DD-3 Delay, Boss CE-5 Chorus, Behringer UMC-204HD Audio Interface, AKAI MPK Mini MK3 Professional Midi Keyboard/Controller, Gretsch Bobtail Resonator, Fender Banjo, Rondo SX Lap Steel (C6), DIY Lap Steel (Open D), a few Mojo Hand Cigar Box Guitars (MojoHandGuitars.com). |
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 31 Mar 2024 3:55 am
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You mean I missed out on this guitar TWICE? lol. I'm just the opposite Roger. I find myself falling in love with the Bb6 uni tuning more every day.
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Mike DiAlesandro
From:
Kent, Ohio
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Posted 31 Mar 2024 4:55 am
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John
Full disclosure:
Yes, I got the Zum and found it a real gem. However, and this was my second foray into 12-string territory, a day later and when I was at my weakest ( ), someone asked me for first refusal should I sell it. As he's a U12 player already, I found myself parting with the Zum before I had even switched a pedal!!
I hereby state publicly that I shall remain a D10 player for the rest of my days. Should I ever even mention 'that nice 12 string on the Forum', I hope everyone will rap me on the knuckles and remind me of my words. |
Roger!!! I hope you sold it locally! |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 31 Mar 2024 5:30 am
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Yes, Mike, and no reflection should be inferred regarding the guitar or our dealings!
It was a series of impulses (to which I'm prone) and I regret nothing. I am keeping the photos - it's so good looking!
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2024 10:42 am
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| I guess it is time to start looking at the parts I sent you. And getting that pull on your D10 set up to last. |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 31 Mar 2024 11:43 am
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It sure is, Bobby - and I just received my work-bench from Ross Schafer. It's perfect.
I also have one pull to add to LKL2; it's lowering 6 and 9 on the top neck now - I want to add the 3rd string lower. I have the right rod!
Randy Beavers gave his reasons for not lowering both G#s, but it's hampering me on occasion. Another year or so and I might wise-up and see he was right.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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