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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 27 Aug 2023 12:55 pm    
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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 27 Aug 2023 12:58 pm    
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Thx

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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 27 Aug 2023 3:22 pm    
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Thx

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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 27 Aug 2023 5:46 pm    
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Laughing
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Ricky Davis


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Post  Posted 28 Aug 2023 6:01 am    
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Bobby D. Jones

 

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Post  Posted 28 Aug 2023 7:37 pm    
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Laughing Laughing I'm with Ricky.
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Dale Rottacker


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Post  Posted 29 Aug 2023 5:32 am    
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I may be way off base here, but wonder about those core windings not going to the rollers. I realize thats not an are we play at much Winking but if your rollers are gauged and your wound strings are seated at a different height than if the windings go over the rollers. Things that make me go Hummmmmm 🤨
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Bobby D. Jones

 

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Post  Posted 29 Aug 2023 4:25 pm    
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I had written about Custom Gaged Rollers some guitars have in my previous post and deleted it.

The first thing comes to mind is. If the winding is not attached solid some way to the core at both ends, Will the string from the vibration of being played, Unwind the winding, And could have a deadening effect on the string.
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Lee Baucum


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Post  Posted 29 Aug 2023 5:35 pm    
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Those strings look very much like the wound strings used on pianos.

~Lee
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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 29 Aug 2023 6:39 pm    
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Thanks

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Jon Voth

 

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Post  Posted 29 Aug 2023 9:31 pm    
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Am I missing something? Guitar scale is at least as long as PSG, right?

Are these meant for an archtop where the tailpiece is way below the saddle?
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John Hyland

 

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Post  Posted 30 Aug 2023 12:54 am    
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Maybe a bumpy ride as you slide the bar into or from open. Also why?
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Bud Harger


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Post  Posted 31 Aug 2023 5:12 am     I’d say…
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… don’t do it!
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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 31 Aug 2023 6:49 pm    
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Thanks

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Jack Stoner


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Post  Posted 1 Sep 2023 3:08 am    
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I don't see a need for something like this. Just a gimmick.
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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 1 Sep 2023 5:21 am    
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Ok!




Jack Stoner wrote:
I don't see a need for something like this. Just a gimmick.


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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 1 Sep 2023 5:28 am    
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Thanks!

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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 1 Sep 2023 6:32 am    
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Thanks

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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 1 Sep 2023 6:38 am    
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Thanks.

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Doug Earnest


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Branson, MO USA
Post  Posted 1 Sep 2023 7:17 am    
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I mis-read Core Over, not Coil Over. Core going over two support points. That makes more sense. I used to be smart.
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Fred Treece


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Post  Posted 1 Sep 2023 8:18 am    
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I am with John Hyland. Does anyone know what the point is?

It has to be about tone, sustain, longevity, wear and tear on the bridge/fingers and nut rollers, cost, playability, or some combination of these factors. Obvoiusly somebody thinks it’s a good idea for some reason.

Doug, at least you used to be smart. That’s one up on me 🥴


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Doug Earnest


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Post  Posted 1 Sep 2023 9:59 am    
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I can see how it will be a different tone. Better, well now that is in the ear of the beholder of course.

It looks like a marketing and sales nightmare to satisfy different scale lengths and the shall we say "pickiness" of steel players but I'm sure Mr. Jackson has considered all of that. He has been involved in the sales and manufacture of more pedal steel guitars than anyone else alive today.
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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 1 Sep 2023 10:38 am    
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Thanks

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Johnie King


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 1 Sep 2023 11:30 am    
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Here’s a cool message I got this Morning from Steve Palousek.
About a 70 thousands string in a package of C6th strings


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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 1 Sep 2023 11:57 am    
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Who is JSG? I've searched for a string maker/distributor with this name. Can't find anything. So are they and how do you find anything about them? Is this some kind of big secret?
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