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Colin Andrews
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Jack Hanson
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Posted 12 Dec 2020 3:37 pm
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Colin Andrews
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Posted 12 Dec 2020 3:53 pm
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scott murray
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Posted 12 Dec 2020 3:56 pm
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I don't know about angry but I've heard some ferocious steel. Buddy Emmons comes right to mind, especially the solo at about 1h 29m here: https://youtu.be/iGb9XLFY6C4
Paul Franklin played on a Megadeth album or 2. I believe he's on this tune: https://youtu.be/lPDAA83GN_A
as for dark and moody steel, there are plenty of examples... not sure where to begin. but this Johnny Paycheck/Lloyd Green cut comes to mind: https://youtu.be/aqunV99xBfM
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Dean Holman
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Posted 12 Dec 2020 4:32 pm
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| Ricky Skaggs did a song called “Woman, You Won’t Take Mineâ€. Lloyd Green played some pretty mean sounding steel on it., a lot of attitude. That song is on Skaggs Coming Home To Stay album. |
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scott murray
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Posted 12 Dec 2020 4:53 pm
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maybe Skunk Baxter's break at the end of Steely Dan's Fire In The Hole?
https://youtu.be/9PwkU4nsJM8
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Colin Andrews
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Posted 12 Dec 2020 5:18 pm
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Fred Treece
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Mike Auman
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Posted 12 Dec 2020 6:53 pm
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Sneaky Pete, 1969: https://youtu.be/EwAsOPWJt8A
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Scott Akers
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Posted 13 Dec 2020 7:30 am
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Frank Black, “At the End of Milesâ€.
https://youtu.be/zVPOi-XTBMc
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Curt Trisko
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Posted 13 Dec 2020 9:18 am
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| as for dark and moody steel, there are plenty of examples... not sure where to begin. but this Johnny Paycheck/Lloyd Green cut comes to mind: https://youtu.be/aqunV99xBfM |
I have never heard that one before. It definitely comes very a different place than his other songs and other songs in the genre. Here's another song of his from the same era: https://youtu.be/ZZlZcXJtzsw. It's an angry song, but Lloyd Green's pedal steel lightens it up instead of darkening it.
The OP hits on a truth about the instrument. It really isn't suited to angry moods. I think none the posted links emote anger to any comparable extent to a lot of other instruments.
A few years ago a contributed some pedal steel phrases to an ambient music project. A couple of them had an angry/irritable/tortured feel. I think they ended up in the second half of this part of the album: https://youtu.be/wF3ZlAQPtvs. Aside from that, I'm having a hard time thinking of examples of 'angry' steel. |
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Bob Carlucci
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Posted 13 Dec 2020 10:02 am
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This is a tongue in cheek video , and yes it is very angry sounding, all the while being done by a man I perceive in my mind as being quite gentle... bob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNY_R3FmmBw
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Fred Treece
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Posted 13 Dec 2020 12:02 pm
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That was great, Bob! Thanks for posting.
I guess I’m not sure what the OP means by “angryâ€. The song I posted is about being tired of being lonesome, and I thought the steel intro reflected that frustrated (maybe not quite pissed off) emotion perfectly, without going into the metal zone like Milo did so expertly. But what do I know. Dark and moody are fairly common in pedal steel playing, by comparison. |
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Ricky Davis
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Posted 13 Dec 2020 1:31 pm
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This just now in from Lloyd Green.
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When I recorded “It Won’t Be Long( Til’ I’ll Be Hating You)†with Paycheck way back in the experimental period where they let me play anything I could conceive, I thought Johnny P. sounded angry on this song so I played “dementedâ€, slightly crazy!
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Colin Andrews
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Posted 13 Dec 2020 1:44 pm
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Posted 13 Dec 2020 1:52 pm
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Brooks Montgomery
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Posted 13 Dec 2020 4:38 pm
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The beginning of that song reminds me a lot of Zappa.
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Kenneth Caine
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2020 6:06 pm
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| Pink Floyd, One of These Days. Lots of lap steel videos on youtube. Do a search. |
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scott murray
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Posted 13 Dec 2020 6:58 pm
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| Pink Floyd, One of These Days. Lots of lap steel videos on youtube. Do a search. |
bingo.
I knew there was an obvious one I was forgetting
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Bob Hoffnar
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2020 9:53 pm
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| Bob...holy crap that is some wild stuff! That rhythmic figure on the Young Mothers tune is intoxicating. Thought the drum solo was gonna give me a heart attack! Really enjoyed all 3 cuts, and your playing on the 2nd one is exceptional, like you could have been the steel player for Sun Ra. |
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 14 Dec 2020 5:42 am
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Let’s not forget the sacred steel guys and Dan Tyack. There music isn’t about anger but is plenty aggressive.
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Olaf van Roggen
From:
The Netherlands
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Posted 14 Dec 2020 7:17 am
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When I was in my teens,The New Riders of the Purple sage with Buddy Cage on "kick in the head" sounded aggressive to me.
I learned to appreciate it much later.
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