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Bill Llewellyn


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San Jose, CA
Post  Posted 30 Jul 2006 6:44 pm    
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Is this eBay offering the MSA it claims to be, or is it a rebranded Carter? It is labeled MSA, but looks like a Carter.

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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post  Posted 30 Jul 2006 6:57 pm    
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It weighs like an MSA.
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John Drury


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Gallatin, Tn USA
Post  Posted 30 Jul 2006 7:16 pm    
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Bill,

Just curious, what is there about this guitar that would make you think it is a Carter?

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Chris LeDrew


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Canada
Post  Posted 30 Jul 2006 7:20 pm    
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I've owned both Carter and MSA. That is definitely not a Carter. It's a typical 70's MSA classic, with some updated parts.

[This message was edited by Chris LeDrew on 30 July 2006 at 08:22 PM.]

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Jim Sliff


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Lawndale California, USA
Post  Posted 30 Jul 2006 7:52 pm    
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Except for the knee levers being different...and mounted in a usable place (mine were not) it looks dead-on like the 12-string version of my old MSA Classic D-10. and I agree - the weight is a giveaway as well. If nothing else, an excellent boat anchor.

[This message was edited by Jim Sliff on 30 July 2006 at 08:54 PM.]

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John Fabian


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Post  Posted 30 Jul 2006 7:53 pm    
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Definitely MSA. Definitely NOT a Carter.

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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 30 Jul 2006 8:26 pm    
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MSA with a replacement pedal board it looks like.
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Bobby Lee


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Cloverdale, California, USA
Post  Posted 30 Jul 2006 9:19 pm    
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If nothing else, an excellent boat anchor.
Actually, it looks like a fine musical instrument. I can't imagine why you'd think otherwise, Jim.
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Curt Langston


Post  Posted 31 Jul 2006 1:58 am    
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Round cross rods is a hallmark sign of a 70's MSA.

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Bo Borland


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South Jersey -
Post  Posted 31 Jul 2006 3:11 am    
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MSA with a non stock pedal board and pedals. It looks like some new pullrods too.
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Roger Edgington


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San Antonio, Texas USA
Post  Posted 31 Jul 2006 10:18 am    
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Looks like it may have a humbucking type pickup also. It appears to be a very nice steel especially for around 30 years old.
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 31 Jul 2006 10:41 am    
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considering the headstock has an open end.....

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Bill Llewellyn


From:
San Jose, CA
Post  Posted 31 Jul 2006 7:19 pm    
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Just curious, what is there about this guitar that would make you think it is a Carter?
Well, lack of knowledge, for one thing.

Seriously, I own a '73 MSA, and I've seen several Carters to which I've compared my MSA. The eBay offering looks far more like a Carter than it does like my MSA (pedals, underbody, endplates, case), but (boy oh boy) I've been wrong before. Guess I'm wrong again. That eBay guitar does look really nice....

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Jim Sliff


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Lawndale California, USA
Post  Posted 31 Jul 2006 7:40 pm    
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"I can't imagine why you'd think otherwise, Jim."

My D-10 weighed as much as a car, had really thin tone, tuning problems, and a couple of badly-mounted add-on knee levers. the tuning poblem I think was really worn-out tuners, because mechanically it seemed pretty well put together. But the combination of the poor tone (only my opinion - some might like it, but it had that thin, nasal sound I find unsuitable for my playing) and weight made it unusable for me.
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