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Johnie King


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 25 Jul 2019 11:58 am    
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Serial number is 1653 D
Bolt on wood neck.





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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 25 Jul 2019 1:16 pm    
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We need to see the back side of the guitar to determine if it is a fat back.
All wood neck Emmons are bolt ons.
Erv
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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 25 Jul 2019 1:20 pm    
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Erv look again I have a picture of the back side she looks the same in back as front so I guess you could set on either side!! Thanks

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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 25 Jul 2019 1:27 pm    
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Johnie,
Yes, you are correct, it is a fat back.
Perfect for a left handed player! Very Happy
Erv
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Tony Glassman


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The Great Northwest
Post  Posted 25 Jul 2019 1:52 pm    
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....and it is s bolt-on, as we’re all wood neck push/pulls.
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Andy DePaule


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Post  Posted 25 Jul 2019 10:45 pm     Beautiful Steel...
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Beautiful Steel you have there Johnnie.
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Jack Strayhorn

 

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Winston-Salem, NC
Post  Posted 26 Jul 2019 8:07 am    
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That is a wooden neck guitar. Officially, the term bolt-on is reserved for the mid to late 60's guitars where the changer bolted to a complete aluminum neck.
Per Ron Lashley, Sr.
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Nick Reed


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Russellville, KY USA
Post  Posted 26 Jul 2019 6:43 pm    
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but yes . . . it is a FATBACK
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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 27 Jul 2019 7:17 am    
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Thanks Nick I should have called an ask you.



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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 27 Jul 2019 7:26 am    
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Thanks Tony
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Michael J Thomas

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 27 Jul 2019 11:40 am     Fatback wood neck
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Its a fatback wood neck. Wood neck automaticaly makes it that it does have a bolt on changer. However. A "bolt on" is feom 65-67 and only if its a metal neck. And not for the wood neck guitars.
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Billy Knowles

 

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Post  Posted 28 Jul 2019 6:17 am     bolt on
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Jack is correct
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Steve Hinson

 

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Hendersonville Tn USA
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2019 6:28 am     ...and...
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...aren't all wooden Emmons guitars"fatbacks"?
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Johnie King


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2019 8:49 am    
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Well I guess I can advertise this steel as a bolt on wood neck fat back.
From what I understand the wood necks are less susceptible too tempature change compared to the aluminum neck bolt on.
An the wood neck can be tightened to the cabinet giving more regitity to the cabinet for less cabinet drop. An the fat back adds to the cabinet strength.
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2019 7:41 am    
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I think some Emmons models were "cut backs" to give the player more leg room.
Erv
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Tony Glassman


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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2019 9:11 am    
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Personally, I consider a bolt-on to be any P/P where the mounting of the changer pillow blocks is directly to an aluminum mass that either comprises or abuts against the neck. This is contrasted with wrap-around mounting, where the pillow blocks are affixed to the deck.

......just my way of thinking about it.
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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2019 12:13 pm    
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Tony I’m with you it is a bolt on wood neck fat back.
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2019 12:58 pm    
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-----one eyed one horned flying purple people eater. Laughing
Erv
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Ron Funk

 

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Ballwin, Missouri
Post  Posted 29 Jul 2019 4:11 pm    
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Refer to steel's other photos posted on Forum:

Looks like the undercarriage might have a few non-period correct 'non-round' cross shafts.

The 'brass ball' might be an attempt for a 'Locator Helper' for finding the adjacent half-tone tuner when steel is in playing position.

Ron
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Dave Mudgett


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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
Post  Posted 29 Jul 2019 6:36 pm     Re: ...and...
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Steve Hinson wrote:
...aren't all wooden Emmons guitars"fatbacks"?

I have a lacquer-body D10 wood-neck w/bolt-on changer from 1978 that is not a fatback. I prefer the rear apron cutout due to my long legs.
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 30 Jul 2019 6:43 am    
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The cross shafts are not true "round".
There is a flat portion to hold the bell cranks in place, they're all like that.
Erv
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Johnie King


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 30 Jul 2019 9:06 am    
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Here’s one that belonged too Henery
Described as a bolt on wood neck. She’s gorgeous!
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Tony Glassman


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Post  Posted 30 Jul 2019 11:45 am     Re: ...and...
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Dave Mudgett wrote:
Steve Hinson wrote:
...aren't all wooden Emmons guitars"fatbacks"?

I have a lacquer-body D10 wood-neck w/bolt-on changer from 1978 that is not a fatback. I prefer the rear apron cutout due to my long legs.


I agree w/ Dave. I’ve owned 2 fat backs to which I routed cut-outs in both back aprons. Incidentally, there was absolutely no tonal difference afterwards.
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Mark Robinson

 

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North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 31 Jul 2019 3:51 pm    
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Johnie King wrote:
Here’s one that belonged too Henery
Described as a bolt on wood neck. She’s gorgeous!


Beautiful guitar!
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Johnie King


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 3 Aug 2019 8:25 am    
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Hers a beautiful s 10 bolt on wood neck!!
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