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Jim Reynolds · From: Franklin, Pa 16323

No Comment, but I can assure you I am an American, and have served for her.
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Jim Reynolds · From: Franklin, Pa 16323

Sorry, I was only trying to answer Darrell's question. It wasn't on the exact subject, but so far I have had six people ask for the copies. I'll try and keep on the subject from now on, so we're not foreigners. We just all be perfect.
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Bob Hoffnar · From: Austin, Tx

Charlie McDonald · From: out of the blue

Piano tuners do stretch the tuning, to compensate for the effects of pitch in the extremes of the compass.
So my temperament octave is 1202 or 1203 cents wide (favoring strong 5ths).
That amount of stretch will be replicated in the octaves above and below, increasing in width by the amount set in the temperament.
Thus the higher and lower notes sound more in tune (for reasons of physics I think) than if the instrument were tuned without stretch.

So I think technically you're right, compared to an electronic tuner. It's a unique case of equal temperament.

Jim Reynolds · From: Franklin, Pa 16323

As I wrote, in my statement. I didn't think they were tuned straight up. Meaning they are not tuned at 440, which would be my understanding of the tuning on the steel. And the piano has normally two string be hammer, then allowing for the harmonics. I have NO true understanding of the piano, because I never tried to tune, only read about it. Thanks.
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Bob Hoffnar · From: Austin, Tx

Jim,
My post about piano tuning was not directed at you. Your posts all come from personal experience and are therefore very valuable.
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Brint Hannay · From: Maryland, USA

While pianos are tuned using stretch tuning, and thus not strictly ET, they are not tuned with the attempt to get beatless major thirds, which is the big obsession among steel players. The reason being that it is impossible for every major third on the piano to be beatless--and you need them all. And each only exists at one place, i.e. one pair of piano keys.

On steel you only need (if beatless thirds is what you want) to tune a few major thirds beatless--the ones found on the open strings and the pedal changes only, without using the bar. For the rest of the major thirds you "fret" up the neck with the bar, moving the same relationships among the strings up to other pitches.

But even on E9 steel if you want to make use of intervals and chords using other than the standard string groupings and pedal changes, too much adherence to the beatless ideal creates problems with some of those other harmonies.

David Mason · From: Cambridge, MD, USA

I'm actually friends with two steely people I consider to be almost "parallel-universe" musicians - Mike Perlowin and Dave Easley. I can consider people like Paul Franklin, Jim Cohen to be at the pinnacle of what can be done through the absolute best pursuit of the right way to do it - but Easley, NOBODY cops those licks, they're from ELSEWHERE. And Mike claims it's studio tricks but NOBODY else has ever done them... and I could ask them how they tune, and it wouldn't help. PLAY in tune, it's what works best I think. So they say. Or they would, if I asked them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tm0Li41ZY0

Jim Reynolds · From: Franklin, Pa 16323

David, your story here, reminds me of a story I read by Tom Bradshaw about a player. I can't remember his name of hand. He played years ago, and I think he is still living. He had been playing for years, and Tom wanted to do a story on him. Him and Wynn Stewart were place, close in CA, so tom went. He asked him what his tuning was, and he said he didn't know, Tom thought he misunderstood him, so he ask again, and again he said he didn't know. Tom then checked it and found what his tuning was. I was amazed. He was one of our older players. I'll get the magazine out later and post it. In was in the Steel Guitarist, that was out years ago. You may remember it. I sure enjoyed. Tom is a great man.
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Jim Reynolds · From: Franklin, Pa 16323

His name was Ralph Mooney.
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Zum U-12, Carter SDU-12, Zum Encore, Emmons S-10, Emmons D-10, Nashville 400, Two Peavey Nashville 112, Boss Katana 100, Ibanez DD700, Almost every Lesson Jeff Newman sold. Washburn Special Edition Guitar, Can never have enough, even at 80. 1963 Original Hofner Bass bought in Germany 1963, and a 1973 Framus Bass also bought in Germany 1974.

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