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Brian Evans

 

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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2017 4:38 am    
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I just dug out my old National Dynamic, purchased years ago literally to save it from being screwed onto the wall of a fake pub, tuned to C6 and started to try. I watched a lesson that emphasized right hand palm muting. My guitar has a combo pickup and bridge cover/palm rest, so palm muting is impossible at the bridge, and clumsy past the palm rest. I seem to mute with my fingers. Is this a bad habit, should I take the palm rest/pickup cover off?
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Stefan Robertson


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2017 4:59 am    
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Take that cover off or learn to pick block
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George Piburn


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2017 5:10 am     move your picking hand forward
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Simple solution -- move your picking hand forward towards the head.

Contrary to popular belief , resting the picking hand on any part of a steel guitar , is a detriment to better playing Technique.

I've developed a technique where my picks hit basically at an octave above the bar position,
meaning I move my picking had for pretty much every note. Works for what I do anyway.

Players can get a wide range of tonal quality by hitting closer and further from the pickup.

This youtube video touches on numerous picking techniques<<Click

If you notice I am picking way ahead of the pickup and never resting my hand on the instrument.

It is an advertisement for my DVD on the subject, there is a lot of Free information in the video.

I am sharing this information that I was tought by Jeff Newman
Buddy Emmons and Paul Franklin from when I was a Student at Jeffran College Nashville 1980-90.

Hope this helps folks.
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David M Brown


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2017 5:33 am    
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I just hit the imaginary "like" button" for those posts.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2017 6:24 am    
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I think resting the picking hand DOESN'T hinder technique at all and is a necessary skill for clean playing.

Its actually a way of training your picking hand to be accustomed to string positions.
Also if executed correctly when using palm blocking enables the player rapid speed.

I think both pick blocking and palm blocking together equal max speed. It all depends on the situation.

Plus the cleanest technique - Doug Jernigan. I have studied his right hand extensively and both techniques are employed. Haven't heard a faster or cleaner player ever. On Pedal and non-pedal.
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George Piburn


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2017 7:14 am     blocking
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I will agree learning as many blocking techniques as possible and utilizing them is a requirement for best overall technique.

So far as the anchoring the picking hand argument - no one will ever convince me that is not a detriment to advanced technique.

But of course my experience is limited to standing 1 meter from Doug J while he played a blazing solo on one of my instruments for my wife and I privately at the Dallas Non Pedal Shows.

And the other few dozen to players I've stood right next to watching intensely and asking direct questions on this exact subject -- many now deceased --
Tom M, Jeff N, Maurice A, Buzz E, Herb R, Billy R, Cindy CD, Ricky D, to drop a few names.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2017 7:35 am    
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I agree anchoring is not the way but bouncing quickly to mute and release is necessary.

Palm movement is necessary as you move your palm forward and backward.

Have a look at the right hand in this clip using a Chromatic scale. Not the fastest or cleanest I can play but this is all closed bar and no open strings. Plus I had the tone rolled down so it wasn't as bright as could be.

https://ilapsteel.wordpress.com/2017/07/26/chromatic-scale/

George I also had a chance having a chat with Doug through Skype about technique. He is awesome.
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George Piburn


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2017 7:51 am     Starting to get it on the money
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Quote:

I agree anchoring is not the way but bouncing quickly to mute and release is necessary.

Palm movement is necessary as you move your palm forward and backward.


Now you are on the Right Track,
this is exactly what Jeff Newman taught me at the Nashville School last century in the 80's.

A few Decades later in 2002 Jeff awarded me a Teaching Credential to share hand techniques with as many students as possible.

I do very much Love your new found dedication to the Art Form as it proves once again Steel Guitar is alive and well and spreading to the Youth.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2017 7:54 am     Re: Starting to get it on the money
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I do very much Love your new found dedication to the Art Form as it proves once again Steel Guitar is alive and well and spreading to the Youth.


Appreciated. Youth at 36 but hey I'll take it.
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