| Author |
Topic: Steel? |
Bryan Staddon
From:
Buffalo,New York,
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 5:25 am |
|
Has anyone ever built a pedal steel out of steel? I know it would be heavy but perhaps it would also be "Heavy"
_________________
You are me as I am you |
|
|
|
Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 7:30 am
|
|
Bryan,
The 1st steel guitars were made out of steel that's why they called it a steel guitar.  |
|
|
|
Bryan Staddon
From:
Buffalo,New York,
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 8:25 am More Modern
|
|
I was thinking more like a modern type steel using a steel body as opposed to an old lap steel or frying pan type.
_________________
You are me as I am you |
|
|
|
Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 8:30 am
|
|
| Is that right, Erv? (It was you rollin the eyes, so I got suspicious of that fact....) |
|
|
|
Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 8:34 am
|
|
Charlie,
Like I told my grandson, "You can only believe half of what I tell you, but I'm not telling you which half".   |
|
|
|
Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 9:39 am
|
|
I can appreciate half of what you told your grandson; at least half honest.
But seriously, the origin of the terminology steel guitar? I'm sorry, my acrimony has driven me off-topic. |
|
|
|
Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 9:43 am
|
|
Charlie,
All kidding aside, the name "steel guitar" originated because the guitar was played with a "steel" railroad spike, pocket knife or whatever.
And now you know the rest of the story. |
|
|
|
Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 9:50 am
|
|
Yes, I just wanted to set that straight in case there were uneducated interlopers present. Thanks for clarifying that.
I did have a cast aluminum (I believe), a Carpsteel, that was very good tonally, much like steel would be...
but that has nothing to do with the topic. Thanks for 'the rest of the story.' |
|
|
|
Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 9:53 am
|
|
| I believe the 1st electric "steel" guitar was actually made out of aluminum, the Rickenbacher frypan. |
|
|
|
Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 10:04 am
|
|
| Erv Niehaus wrote: |
Charlie,
All kidding aside, the name "steel guitar" originated because the guitar was played with a "steel" railroad spike, pocket knife or whatever.
And now you know the rest of the story. |
So, if we play with a zirc bar, must we call it a pedal zirconia guitar? 
_________________
Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
|
|
|
Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 10:39 am
|
|
Mike,
You got it!
I call mine a combination Singer sewing machine and an electric cheese slicer. |
|
|
|
J R Rose
From:
Keota, Oklahoma, USA
|
Posted 6 Jul 2017 8:16 pm
|
|
Erv, Singer Sewing Machine Company also made some Model 1911 45 automatic pistols on the Colt Patent. So it could be a Singer Auto, a Singer 45 or a Singer Cheese Slicer. But I guess it could be anything you wanted it to be. I wish I had one. Worth a whole lot more than any one's Steel Guitar. J.R. Rose
_________________
NOTHING..Sold it all. J.R. Rose |
|
|
|
Bryan Staddon
From:
Buffalo,New York,
|
Posted 7 Jul 2017 7:10 am So is that a no?
|
|
Luckily I can't read emojis, too small! And I do own a steel bar so yeah,I got that part, anyway the question still stands. Is or was there a modern style pedal steel made out of steel?
_________________
You are me as I am you |
|
|
|
Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
|
Posted 7 Jul 2017 7:16 am
|
|
| No |
|
|
|
Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
|
Posted 7 Jul 2017 1:07 pm
|
|
I believe that forumite and luthier Alan Brookes once made an instrument from steel, possibly stainless, imagining that the great rigidity would give great sustain. Apparently it sounded terrible.
_________________
Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
|
|
|
Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
|
|
|
|
Bryan Staddon
From:
Buffalo,New York,
|
Posted 8 Jul 2017 6:40 am Thanks Ian
|
|
Thanks, I'd love to have heard it since" terrible sound" is relative. Please note Erv that there seems to be alternative facts regarding your hard and fast " no". I bet it looked pretty cool though, a stainless steel steel. Of course roadies would be necessary!
_________________
You are me as I am you |
|
|
|
Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
|
Posted 8 Jul 2017 7:23 am
|
|
| My mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts! |
|
|
|
Ross Shafer
From:
Petaluma, California
|
|
|
|
Bryan Staddon
From:
Buffalo,New York,
|
Posted 9 Jul 2017 6:05 am Very cool!
|
|
Cool photos,looks like it was a lot of work! Seems like thin and sterile is what happens when you use steel. I played an Aluminum guitar once back in the 70's I think it was a Valeno .
Peter Hancock of Climax Blues Band played one and it was a real face melter when I saw him use it, I couldn't get anything good out of it,of course I'm only a tenth of the guitar player he was! Maybe I should just use chrome spay paint and make it look like steel!
Also Erv, I think there is a future for you as a politician. I am rolling my eyes now but I'm also smiling because I love reading your posts.
_________________
You are me as I am you |
|
|
|
Stuart Legg
|
Posted 9 Jul 2017 7:56 am
|
|
They should have called it Steal Guitar. I hear mostly stolen licks.
The standard 6 stringer Guitar should be called Pentatonic Guitar. That's about all you hear. |
|
|
|
Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
|
|
|
|
Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
|
Posted 9 Jul 2017 10:20 am
|
|
| My favorite topic, Lee. If you follow the links, you will find the end of the internet, or possibly the beginning of the Forum. |
|
|
|
Bryan Staddon
From:
Buffalo,New York,
|
Posted 9 Jul 2017 5:36 pm What?
|
|
Mr Legg are you lost? What licks are you talking about?
_________________
You are me as I am you
Last edited by Bryan Staddon on 10 Jul 2017 3:16 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
|
|
Richard Sinkler
From:
aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
|
Posted 10 Jul 2017 12:21 pm Re: Thanks Ian
|
|
| Bryan Staddon wrote: |
| Thanks, I'd love to have heard it since" terrible sound" is relative. Please note Erv that there seems to be alternative facts regarding your hard and fast " no". I bet it looked pretty cool though, a stainless steel steel. Of course roadies would be necessary! |
Not sure if Alan built a psg. I would bet that the steel he built was a lap steel. Still heavy if it was solid, which I would doubt.
Speaking of Alan, I wonder where he is.
_________________
Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
|
|
|
