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George Piburn


From:
The Land of Enchantment New Mexico
Post  Posted 30 Jun 2017 11:13 am    
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Hello every one ,

Just sorta opening a dialogue among my forumites to see
if any one would want a low cost easy project to Retro-Fit their Rogue to 22.5 scale in an afternoon with minimal tools.

I Retro-Fit-ed mine in 2 hours of work, 4 hours of coffee and talking. My Cost was less than 50 bucks.

All I used was my Battery Drill some bits and 5 new stainless steel screws I got from ACE.

Lettuce know if you think it looks clean.


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These are most of the steps of the Retro-Fit


Remove the Bridge hardware , bag the saddles screws springs. Wipe debris under the plate.
Set The Plate all the way back , tape at end of guitar.
ReCycle the 2 large screws to fill their original holes for a visual.
Get the New # 6X3/4 and #4 X 3/4 screws and set the plate at the end edge.
Set the Bridge as far back as possible.
Set the Nut at 22.5"
Peel N Stick FretBaord.
Presto -- 22.5 Scale - Sounds and plays like a high cost professional guitar.

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Bill Creller

 

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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 30 Jun 2017 5:08 pm    
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COOL George !! Very Happy

I wasn't even aware that the scale was short ! Bobby Ingano gave me one of those for my Grand Daughter to learn on ! Another mod coming up ! Maybe it will help the tone a bit !!
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George Piburn


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The Land of Enchantment New Mexico
Post  Posted 30 Jun 2017 6:11 pm     Video
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Thanks Bill, The Brass Bar really does make for a real deal tone and sustain.
Of course if someone wants to use aluminum or other metal, and for that matter any thickness too.

The Width is there to take wide 3/8 nut and wider .390 bridge - I like 3/8 Bridge and 11/32 nut on mine same as my 8 String set up.

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Jim Williams

 

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Meridian, Mississippi, USA - Home of Peavey!
Post  Posted 12 Jul 2017 6:36 am    
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I had thought of doing this same thing, but didn't think of utilizing the existing part as you did...great idea. This is really not a bad guitar and has potential considering the cost...I think I may do this one. I can't stand the 20" scale.
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George Piburn


From:
The Land of Enchantment New Mexico
Post  Posted 12 Jul 2017 6:56 am     RetroFit
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The Rouge is actually 21 scale, our Nut unit only can get you a much higher steel tone , simply dump the molded plastic nut and drop in the "RetroFit" and re set the bridge saddles.

Going the full nut and bridge route is the ticket to bring a Rouge up to speed. + you can go 22.5 with little effort.

Same Deal on one of those SX Junkers, we have the nut and bridge RetrFit parts , and we have a Full Bridge String Receiver , to quickly add and we sell peel n stick fret boards in all sorts of scales if the SX 22.75 doesn't work for some one.



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Tony Oresteen


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Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 12 Jul 2017 7:50 am    
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George,

Great idea. I have two Rogue type lap steels and I used your brass angle nut material to replace the molded plastic originals. This is the #1 mod you should do to your Rouge. I widen the string spacing at the nut to match the bridge.

The next mod you should do is to change the pickups. I replaced mine with DiMarzio silent single coil types.

Whether you keep the 21" scale or stretch it to 22.5 is a personal choice. I'm fine with the 21" scale.

It's great to have choices when upgrading these inexpensive lap steel guitars.
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Jim Williams

 

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Meridian, Mississippi, USA - Home of Peavey!
Post  Posted 12 Jul 2017 8:54 am    
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I guess I'm just used to the 22 1/2 inch scale since all my other laps are in this range.
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