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Tony Oresteen


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Post Posted 14 May 2017 6:31 pm     Reply with quote

Way way back in 1973ish I bought a Sho-Bud Maverick 3+1 pedal steel guitar out of a pawnshop in Killeen, Texas. Around 1975 while in college I sold it and I have never sat down at a pedal steel guitar since.

I looked on-line and haven't been able to find an owners' manual for the Maverick.

For the life of me, I can not remember what each of the three pedals did. Ditto for the knee lever. But, hey, it's been 42 years Smile.

Can someone explain what each of the pedals & knee lever did on the Maverick? TIA!

I do know I played in E9 tuning but that's all I can recall.

Also, does anyone know where a Maverick Owner's manual in a PDF might be found?

Thanks!
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Greg Lambert


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Post Posted 14 May 2017 6:40 pm     Reply with quote

Here you go tony ;

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1emWLgx0Vo_Je_Muicn5Px9Q_W7buBBi0ekqLQ9nR2ek/edit
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Tony Oresteen


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Post Posted 14 May 2017 6:58 pm     Reply with quote

Greg Lambert wrote:
Here you go tony ;

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1emWLgx0Vo_Je_Muicn5Px9Q_W7buBBi0ekqLQ9nR2ek/edit


Thanks! I saw that but it's a RAR file that holds an executable (.exe) file - too dangerous to open!

Most likely it's a malware loader. No reason to put a PDF in an .exe file unless you want to do bad things!
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Lane Gray


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Post Posted 14 May 2017 7:07 pm     Reply with quote

The knee lever lowers 2 to either C# or D (when I have guitars without a half-stop, I'd retune depending on the song) and 8 to D#.
The three pedals are the standard A, B and C pedals (A pedal raises 5 and 10 to C#, B raises the G#s to A and the C pedal raises 4 and 5 a whole tone.
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Tony Oresteen


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Post Posted 14 May 2017 9:59 pm     Reply with quote

Lane Gray wrote:
The knee lever lowers 2 to either C# or D (when I have guitars without a half-stop, I'd retune depending on the song) and 8 to D#.
The three pedals are the standard A, B and C pedals (A pedal raises 5 and 10 to C#, B raises the G#s to A and the C pedal raises 4 and 5 a whole tone.


Thank you Lane!
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Mike Perlowin


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Post Posted 14 May 2017 10:39 pm     Reply with quote

Winnie Winston's book https://www.amazon.com/Pedal-Steel-Guitar-Book-CD/dp/082560169X is written for your 3 pedal 1 knee lever setup. It is an excellent way for you to get started.
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Tony Oresteen


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Post Posted 15 May 2017 10:29 am     Reply with quote

Mike Perlowin wrote:
Winnie Winston's book https://www.amazon.com/Pedal-Steel-Guitar-Book-CD/dp/082560169X is written for your 3 pedal 1 knee lever setup. It is an excellent way for you to get started.




Mike, many thanks! I ordered one - should be here by Friday. You saved me a post as I was going to ask about a book next Smile.

I still have my first pedal steel book from 1973. It's by Mel Bay / Don Sharp from 1972.



I remember having issues with it. Page 4 shows how to tune a 10 string pedal to E9.



Why they listed strings 10 & 9 as E & B I have no clue. I'm not the only person lead down the path of despair by Don Sharp:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=156157&sid=d5d9171a6055b95d21cea3e5f9dfb12b

I'm not going to toss it - remember, just because it's in a book (or on the internet) doesn't mean that it's true Smile . Proof!


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Tony Oresteen


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Georgia, USA
Post Posted 15 May 2017 4:03 pm     Reply with quote

OK, I think I have it figured out. I did up a Copedent chart for the Sho-Bud 6152 Maverick




Do I have the pedals & the knee lever listed correctly for the Maverick?

What I don't recall is can the Maverick RKR drop the 2nd string a full step?


A couple of notes on my copedent:

1. SPN is Scientific Pitch Notation. I use MIDI a lot and SPN is a way to keep instruments in their correct ranges.

2. Frequencies listed are actual scientific pitch frequencies "straight up" based on a 440 Hz A note above middle C. Do not get them confused with tunings that vary a note from a 440 base (plus or minus) depending on how many cents of compensation is needed for a particular string on a particular guitar.

Thanks!
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Lane Gray


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Post Posted 15 May 2017 7:25 pm     Reply with quote

There's plenty of room for the 2nd string to drop to C#.
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b0b


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Post Posted 15 May 2017 8:37 pm     Reply with quote

I always thought it was this:
Tab:
      P1   P2   P3    K
F#
D#                    D
G#         A
E               F#
B     C#        C#
G#         A
F#
E                     D#
D
B     C#

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Lane Gray


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Post Posted 15 May 2017 11:10 pm     Reply with quote

Indeed. The BE didn't last. DB on the bottom two
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Mike Perlowin


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Post Posted 16 May 2017 2:29 am     Reply with quote

b0b wrote:
I always thought it was this:
Tab:
      P1   P2   P3    K
F#
D#                    D
G#         A
E               F#
B     C#        C#
G#         A
F#
E                     D#
D
B     C#


That's the setup Winnie's book is written for.
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Tony Oresteen


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Post Posted 16 May 2017 4:48 am     Reply with quote

Lane Gray wrote:
Indeed. The BE didn't last. DB on the bottom two


Lane. Thanks. I'm new to this PSG world and I do not under stand what you mean when you say "BE didn't last" & "DB on the bottom two".

Are taking about the RKR lever?
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Lane Gray


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Post Posted 16 May 2017 9:05 am     Reply with quote

No, I meant strings 9 and 10. The standard E9th runs, 10-1, BDEF#G#BEG#D#F#, and the early Buds went EBEF#G#BEG#D#F#, with no 7th in the lower octave. That tuning didn't stick.
If your guitar will only have one lever, dropping 2 and 8 is the wiser way to go.
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Tony Oresteen


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Post Posted 16 May 2017 11:09 am     Reply with quote

Lane Gray wrote:
No, I meant strings 9 and 10. The standard E9th runs, 10-1, BDEF#G#BEG#D#F#, and the early Buds went EBEF#G#BEG#D#F#, with no 7th in the lower octave. That tuning didn't stick.
If your guitar will only have one lever, dropping 2 and 8 is the wiser way to go.


Ahh! Thanks! Now I understand how Don Sharp got the tuning he listed in his book.
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Ron Pruter


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Post Posted 16 May 2017 6:03 pm     Reply with quote

I worked at Sho-Bud in the early seventies and I think I remember Mike P's and bOb"s copedent being correct. RP
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Tony Oresteen


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Georgia, USA
Post Posted 18 May 2017 5:56 pm     Reply with quote

Mile P,

Winnie's book arrived today complete with a CD. Tracks are ripped to MP3 & I added the correct artwork Smile



I'm traveling tomorrow - wonder if the wife will let me play the tracks in the car? Guess not!

Thanks again for recommending this book to me.
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Paul Redmond


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Post Posted 19 May 2017 4:05 pm     Reply with quote

IMO the Don Sharp "method" is so complex as to be almost unworkable. I bought a copy of that book a long time ago more out of curiosity than anything, and was really surprised at the excessive-ness of the "method".
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Mike Perlowin


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Post Posted 19 May 2017 4:33 pm     Reply with quote

You're welcome Tony. Many of us, including me, used Winnie's book when we were starting out. It's a great resource.
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Paul Redmond


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Post Posted 19 May 2017 5:18 pm     Reply with quote

Right on, Mike. After four full decades, that book is in its 14 or 15 printing. Unbelievable!!! Sadly, so many of the players in all the pics inside are gone as are both of the authors.
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