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Topic: Excel resto project |
Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 8 May 2017 9:10 am |
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I don't get this.. The seller is a long time forumite, and I was never aware of any issues such as this. How could this possibly have done him any good??. To make a few quick bucks on another long time forumite, and then never being able to list anything here again?.
This did no one any good, buyer or seller.. That little guitar is a mess,it took a lot of misspent time and massive poor effort to make it look that way, and the seller should be ashamed.
Best of luck re conditioning that little Excel Damir.. It deserves a better life than it has had thus far. I hope in the future it can be enjoyed by a player somewhere... bob
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 8 May 2017 9:26 am
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Beautiful upholstery work on that pad.  |
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Andrew Wright
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 8 May 2017 9:32 am
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| Yes, the pedal bar definitely looks scuffed. |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 8 May 2017 9:48 am
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I'll bet it was damaged in shipping.  |
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K Maul
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Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL
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Posted 8 May 2017 9:58 am
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What the HECK is that stuff on the undercarriage? Hard to understand why someone would think that was a good thing to do.
Also, given what people have said about the seller's history here,is it possible he is somehow being used by an unscrupulous family member or "friend"? Just a thought.
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Daniel McKee
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Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 8 May 2017 10:12 am
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| It looks like it got really hot the way the paint or whatever it is has bubbles in it. All I know is its a mess. I believe Billy had been a member here for a while and I actually met him once and he was really nice to me and seems like a nice guy so I'm not sure why something like this happened. I wish you guys the best in the restoration and I hope you will post pictures of the finished product. |
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Jack Goodson
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Posted 8 May 2017 10:14 am Excel?
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| I saw Billy's Carr play this guitar in Gulfport Mississippi last November and it looked and sounded mint, just do not understand....jack |
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Damir Besic
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Nashville,TN.
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Posted 8 May 2017 10:26 am
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| Bob Carlucci wrote: |
| I don't get this.. The seller is a long time forumite, and I was never aware of any issues such as this |
that is exactly why I bought it unseen, I didn't doubt for a one second that guitar is nice...
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Damir Besic
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Nashville,TN.
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Posted 8 May 2017 10:27 am Re: Excel?
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| Jack Goodson wrote: |
| I saw Billy's Carr play this guitar in Gulfport Mississippi last November and it looked and sounded mint, just do not understand....jack |
its probably what Erv said, got damaged in shipping
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Jason Putnam
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 8 May 2017 10:31 am
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Looks like someone dumped paint remover on it and walked away!! That's horrible. I couldn't live with myself if I sold something like that.
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Jack Goodson
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new brockton,alabama (deceased)
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Posted 8 May 2017 10:33 am .?
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| No damir, I did not say is was damaged in shipment, sorry for posting....jack |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 8 May 2017 10:43 am
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I'm sure Damir caught on when I said it was damaged in shipping.
After all, the case looked fine. |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 8 May 2017 10:47 am
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I assumed that Billy Carr was a good guy,I wouldn't do that to a dog,He should send Damir back his money,and buy a working camera...That's just not cool!!
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Jerry Horch
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Alva, Florida, USA
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Posted 8 May 2017 3:53 pm
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But does it have 'the sound'...sorry just kiddin, I'd drive to his house.
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Damir Besic
From:
Nashville,TN.
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Posted 8 May 2017 4:06 pm
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Mike is going to post a little video we did at his shop today, we start taking guitar apart, and we have a plan how to approach this, Mike has a nice shop , and I'm sure this will turn out good, I'm in the process of ordering some new decals from Mitsuo as well, we are not sure yet if we can save mica or if we will have to re-mica the whole guitar, too early to tell....
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Mike Scaggs
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 8 May 2017 4:24 pm .
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Enjoy the unraveling of this Excel. In case there is any doubt what happened this video will clearly show what we are dealing with. You be the judge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iym5hdElrWc&feature=youtu.be
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Larry Carlson
From:
My Computer
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Posted 8 May 2017 4:57 pm
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I just watched Mike's video.
Holy crap.........
I couldn't damage a guitar that much if I tried.
Kind of makes me wonder what really happened.........or why.
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Dan Robinson
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 8 May 2017 6:33 pm
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I was having a nightmare, it was the worst thing you can imagine, absolutely horrible. Oh, man I'm glad to be awake. Gonna chill out and see what's up on the SGF.....
WHAT! Noooo, I can't take the stress. Better get back to sleep, try to continue where I left it. At least THAT wasn't real.
Gosh, Damir... ouch! |
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Jason Putnam
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 8 May 2017 7:39 pm
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I hate that this happened to you Damir. I wouldn't want it to happen to anyone. But a positive note on a terrible situation, it didn't happen to someone just trying to start out in the world of steel guitar. I couldn't imagine receiving my first instrument in that condition and not knowing the proper people and channels to have it repaired. What a nightmare that would be!
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Damir Besic
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Nashville,TN.
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Posted 8 May 2017 8:04 pm
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I got this poor thing on local Craigslist Carter E9 ext 3+5, and came with a bunch of rods and lose parts.... seller said all the parts are there to set it back up to U12 7+5 ...
after taking the guitar apart, installing pedals, and cleaning it up, while putting it back together it turned out not all of the parts were there, so I asked Buck Reed for help... and here is what she looks like today...
this little Excel will go through the same process.... and with Mikes help, it will proudly shine under the stage lights again...
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Damir Besic
From:
Nashville,TN.
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Posted 8 May 2017 8:21 pm
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| Why did you keep it, Damir? Did you try to return it to Billy Carr and get your money back, and did he refuse? |
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From: Billy Carr
To: Damir Besic
Posted: 6 May 2017 9:29 am
Subject: Re: psg Quote message
I'm sorry you don't like the guitar. That's the reason you got it at such a low price was in case you didn't like it. With only 1450.00 in it, it will easily sell for you especially to players just starting out that want/need a guitar that's already set up and doesn't have to be broken in. I hope this doesn't cause any hard feelings between us but when I let someone have something at such a low price I consider it a done deal, as I do this one. It would be hard to purchase a guitar like the Excel, unaltered, at such a price. I had 3100.00 in it and 300.00 in the case for a total of 3400.00. Just sell it at a good price to someone and I'll know in the future exactly what you expect in a guitar. Don't send it back. I'm sorry about the misunderstanding. I still consider you a friend/buddy. 1650.00 seems like an excellent price here. |
I am not mad at Billy, but I can't sell this to anyone, sometimes I get complaints from people because guitar they bought has a scratch in a knee lever, or a small dent in the cabinet, can you imagine if I try to sell this lol .... without help the future of this guitar would be in some basement under old chairs, rubber boots, and moldy carpets lol .... I cant let that happen, It will be a beautiful instrument making someone very proud again, no matter the cost ...
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Damir Besic
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Nashville,TN.
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Posted 8 May 2017 11:04 pm
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my love affair with Excel guitars goes all the way back to 1991 when i got my first D10 Excel delivered to me to Germany where I lived at that time...it came from Scotty....
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Mike Scaggs
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 9 May 2017 3:02 am
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| Damir Besic wrote: |
| Jim Cohen wrote: |
| Why did you keep it, Damir? Did you try to return it to Billy Carr and get your money back, and did he refuse? |
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From: Billy Carr
To: Damir Besic
Posted: 6 May 2017 9:29 am
Subject: Re: psg Quote message
I'm sorry you don't like the guitar. That's the reason you got it at such a low price was in case you didn't like it. With only 1450.00 in it, it will easily sell for you especially to players just starting out that want/need a guitar that's already set up and doesn't have to be broken in. I hope this doesn't cause any hard feelings between us but when I let someone have something at such a low price I consider it a done deal, as I do this one. It would be hard to purchase a guitar like the Excel, unaltered, at such a price. I had 3100.00 in it and 300.00 in the case for a total of 3400.00. Just sell it at a good price to someone and I'll know in the future exactly what you expect in a guitar. Don't send it back. I'm sorry about the misunderstanding. I still consider you a friend/buddy. 1650.00 seems like an excellent price here. |
I am not mad at Billy, but I can't sell this to anyone, sometimes I get complaints from people because guitar they bought has a scratch in a knee lever, or a small dent in the cabinet, can you imagine if I try to sell this lol .... without help the future of this guitar would be in some basement under old chairs, rubber boots, and moldy carpets lol .... I cant let that happen, It will be a beautiful instrument making someone very proud again, no matter the cost ... |
Again, I'm speechless
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Quentin Hickey
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 9 May 2017 3:05 am
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