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Topic: Anyone use a half stop with a fourth string E to F# raise? |
Jeff Hogsten
From: Flatwoods Ky USA
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Posted 6 May 2017 8:32 am
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I don't use a C pedal. I raise my E to F# on a lever. Love it. I'm getting ready to add a B to A lower. I'm going to put a half stop there. Got the idea from Tommy White. I've always wanted the half stop lower on the B but always wanted something else worse. That gave me the idea of putting a half stop on my E to F#. Thought someone may have done it. would appreciate any input. |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 6 May 2017 9:14 am
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I would think that unless it was a really hard half stop, you would overshoot the F note. And that would make the full tone raise a bit hard to actuate without a bump in the move from E to F#. I activate the F lever pretty quickly, and need that hard stop on the F note. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Jeff Hogsten
From: Flatwoods Ky USA
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Posted 6 May 2017 9:18 am
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That's what I was afraid of |
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Georg Sørtun
From: Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 6 May 2017 10:12 am
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I have gravity driven "hard" half-stops on both raise and lower of E-strings on my modified Dekley - had them since back in -88. Use the vertical lever to lift these stops out of the way when I want to raise, or lower, two half-notes.
Plus: no risk of overshooting (as one will have with spring-loaded half-stops).
Minus: 1) a bit more complex mechanism. 2) cannot use the vertical for anything else.
All in all: love it |
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Jon Light
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 6 May 2017 10:26 am
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I am completely unfamiliar with the intriguing engineering that Georg describes.
In the more familiar world, I have never met a feeler stop that was anywhere close to being firm enough to provide me the necessary confidence for the F lever. This is such an important and automatic position for me and it is an exacting lever to tune right. I want nothing to do with the complication of a less-than-hard stop.
I do have E>F# on a lever (in addition to the C pedal) but I'd give it up before I compromised the F lever.
Just speaking for myself. |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 6 May 2017 1:15 pm
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I tried playing a friend's guitar that had that half stop. For me it was a disaster. I fail to see how my friend could play it. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 7 May 2017 4:11 pm
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You could always put a split on there for the other note as an option. _________________ 14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
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John McClung
From: Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 12 May 2017 8:13 am
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Jim Palenscar's guitar has strings 4 and 8 E>F>F# as a double stop on the F lever, when set up right it's a great change, some unique voicing become possible.
My Mullen's LKL/Front raise just string 4 E>F#, no half stop, but sometimes I raise it a whole step, engage my F lever (RKR, do note), and release the F# down to F, for a new C#sus4 chord at open position. Or go the other way, F lever first, then the whole step raise, both are useful.
I still have a C pedal, and would never give that up, too indispensable for so many things that I play. _________________ E9 INSTRUCTION
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