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Tim Russell


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Post Posted 3 May 2017 1:53 pm     Reply with quote

The Williams I recently purchased has the G# to B raise - 6th string on RKR.

It is an interesting change, bringing that string into unison with the 5th., but I can't really find much else to do with it...that is, to justify using up a knee with it.

Anyone use that change? Any songs with examples?
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Jonah Turner


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Post Posted 3 May 2017 3:58 pm     Reply with quote

It was also on the guitar I got just a few months ago that used to belong to Tommy White. I don't know if it was his change or if it was added somewhere in between. I'll be interested to see what other people think of it too; I definitely haven't heard many examples of it.
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Rich Peterson


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Moorhead, MN
Post Posted 3 May 2017 5:02 pm     Reply with quote

This gives some examples of that change and a few others.
https://youtu.be/PNMvxYqXw8I
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post Posted 3 May 2017 5:26 pm     Reply with quote

Really cool link Rich!

Here's a nice sound for a slow ballad using the G# to B change:

http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Tab/Tab658.mp3

Tab in pdf format:

http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Tab/Tab658.pdf
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Tony Dingus


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Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
Post Posted 3 May 2017 6:33 pm     Reply with quote

Paul Franklin has it on his left vertical. He talks about in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phDJy_IiR1Y


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Mickey Adams


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Bandera Texas
Post Posted 3 May 2017 7:52 pm     Reply with quote

This has become one of my all time favorite changes...I have it on all by guitars...Fabulous stacks of close intervals available...!!
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Craig A Davidson


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Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
Post Posted 4 May 2017 5:32 am     Reply with quote

I just put it on my Mullen and love it. Now for the Williams.
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Tim Russell


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Pennsylvania, USA
Post Posted 4 May 2017 10:48 am     Reply with quote

Thanks for that video, Tony. Paul is awesome, of course. For some reason, it doesn't sound the same when I play it... Confused
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 4 May 2017 12:30 pm     Reply with quote

That's quite a raise, how long does the string last?
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Drew Howard


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Mason, MI, U.S.A.
Post Posted 4 May 2017 5:12 pm     Reply with quote

Erv, good question. I would love to have this change. But how long does the G# .020 last?
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post Posted 4 May 2017 5:29 pm     Reply with quote

I use a .022 plain and have had the G# to B on 3 different guitars and never broke a string.
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 5 May 2017 7:11 am     Reply with quote

Another question, how many guitars have a changer that can make that change?
I know of some guitars that have a hard time dropping the G# to F#.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Post Posted 5 May 2017 9:07 am     Reply with quote

I was able to do that change with the .022 plain string on my old Jim Vest Sho-Bud Pro II custom, current Excel 12 string and my new Williams S-12.
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Tuukka Ojala


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Finland
Post Posted 5 May 2017 12:04 pm     Reply with quote

Isn't this the same change that is at the beginning of the steel break on Look at us? This one:

https://youtu.be/uSfjp1ky4Mw?t=2m52s

I don't know how unusual it is to have that change but it would seem the Stage One has it too, unless there's some black magic involved which I'm not aware of:

https://soundcloud.com/user649826/look-at-us-mix

Mind you, I'm not a steel player (yet), but picking up changes and the like is what I routinely do to prepare myself for when the inevitable happens.
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John McClung


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Olympia WA, USA
Post Posted 12 May 2017 8:43 am     Reply with quote

On the video Tony Dingus link to where PF explains his copedent, the vertical lever raise of string 6 G#>B is at 2:50>3:25.
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Brint Hannay


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Post Posted 12 May 2017 10:39 am     Reply with quote

Tuukka Ojala wrote:
Isn't this the same change that is at the beginning of the steel break on Look at us? This one:

https://youtu.be/uSfjp1ky4Mw?t=2m52s

I don't know how unusual it is to have that change but it would seem the Stage One has it too, unless there's some black magic involved which I'm not aware of:

https://soundcloud.com/user649826/look-at-us-mix

Mind you, I'm not a steel player (yet), but picking up changes and the like is what I routinely do to prepare myself for when the inevitable happens.

Black magic: I believe the minor third drop in the Look At Us solo is on the 4th string, releasing from the C pedal whole-step raise to the half-step lower. Executing it on the 6th string with a B raise would have a quite different timbre.
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Jim Palenscar


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Oceanside, Calif, USA
Post Posted 13 May 2017 8:16 am     Reply with quote

I have this on my 0 pedal and also lower the 7th string F# to an E as well as raising my 9th string D to a B so it's just a giant power chord w 1's and 5's all the way to the 4th string.
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Tim Russell


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Pennsylvania, USA
Post Posted 13 May 2017 10:24 am     Reply with quote

Part of my problem is where to place it for best use. It is currently on my RKL, which also lowers the 2nd string. This interferes with some licks that I like to use.

On my other guitar, the 6th lower in also coupled with 1&2 string raise, which also cramps some licks. Should the 6th raise be on a lever of its own for best use?
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