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Topic: My Extended E9 set up... |
Rick Schmidt
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Prescott AZ, USA
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Paul Stauskas
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DFW, TX
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Posted 9 Apr 2017 9:33 pm |
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Great video, thanks Rick!
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Jeremy Threlfall
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now in Western Australia
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 10 Apr 2017 4:19 am
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Very much enjoyed seeing how you get those fat chords that I love.
The Infinity looks great and sounds superb, even on Utube. Very balanced sound. |
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Ron Scott
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Michigan
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Posted 10 Apr 2017 7:12 am
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Very nice Rick. Love the guitar too. Ron 
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 10 Apr 2017 7:21 am
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Lovely touch, Rick. That guitar looks like a work of art!
I don't buy the notion of possibly getting in the bass player's way, not with Ext E9. Maybe on the C neck but not with this set up.
You have some very interesting pulls on there - much enjoyed. And, of course, I know we all wish you nothing but the best with your ongoing treatment.
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Darrell Birtcher
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Posted 10 Apr 2017 9:43 am
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Nice job Rick (and Wes)!
I love the "surprise myself" comment. That's when it gets really fun!
This extended E9 setup makes so much sense the way you've explained and played it, that it makes me wonder why it's not more commonly used. But then again, not many people think like you do! |
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 10 Apr 2017 11:12 am
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First, good luck with your cancer treatment. I speak for many when I say I hope you recover completely.
I play a U-12, so my E string is the 11th rather than the 2th string. I also lower it to C#. I's a great change. I like that your C pedal raises the 8th string to F#. I may put that on my guitars.
I think that the extra 2 strings on a 12 string offer a lot of possibilities not found on a 10 string. When I sit down at a 10 string I feel haldf the guitar is missing.
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 10 Apr 2017 12:53 pm
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| P1 is the nazz. |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 10 Apr 2017 2:44 pm
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I hope those of y'all who haven't heard Rick play a set on his guitar, and sing as beautifully and with as much communication as his very expressive steel playing, will get a chance to one day. He really is a special performer, IMHO.
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Dan Robinson
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2017 5:32 pm
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Well thought out "adult chords." It's amazing how you keep up with Brian Wilson.
I know it's just YouTube, but Your Infinity sounds incredibly balanced.
Best wishes for your full recovery. |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2017 11:04 pm M extended E 9th set up
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| In Dec. 2015 I put my S10 away and started on a S12U. I have never got to the B6 part of the guitar yet. With the 11th string E and 10 G# and 9th string B with D on LKL. It has kept me in stiches trying to figure out all the grips I can use with these added strings. This also give the guitar 2 low droan strings to add in certain licks. This thing is bending my mind again. |
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robert kramer
From:
Nashville TN
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Posted 11 Apr 2017 9:29 am
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I'm a fan of Rick Schmidt's steel playing. I know we're talking extended E-9th here - but check out his C-6th intro and ending to "Body & Soul." (The arrangement and jazz steel tone is great)
0:05 Intro
4:10 Ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmFaxr-ZbRQ |
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Dwight Lewis
From:
Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted 11 Apr 2017 12:29 pm Copedant explanation
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Pm sent to you Rick
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 13 Apr 2017 1:49 pm
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| Thanks for all the kind words friends and fellow steel pickers! |
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Bill Ford
From:
Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 16 Apr 2017 1:37 pm
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Rick, Could you post a diagram of the pedal/lever setup if you have it drawn up yet. Love the tone you get.
Please, and thank you..BF
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2017 2:09 pm
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Here you go Bill. This chart is from my D12/11 Dekley, and I don't have a way on this computer to edit. Not the most current, but it's close. I never had a LKR on my Dekley...now I do on my new Infinity. On this chart, it calls my "Zero Pedal" #1.
So now on my new LKR, I raise strings 1 and 7 a half stop AND a whole step ( F#-G-G#), and string 2 a half step (D-E). I also now lower string 5 both a half and a whole step on my LKV. (B-Bb-A) "splitting up one half the "Franklin change". The other half, the 6 string G#-F# lower is now sharing pedal 5 with one pull on C6. I don't lower the 10th string because it gets in the way of other uses I have with my low strings and Zero Pedal.
I've never had such easily usable half stops before either .... the Infinity has very positive and in-tune half stops... the best I've had!
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Jeff Hogsten
From:
Flatwoods Ky USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2017 4:41 pm
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Here's a tuning I come up with looking at BMI's jet 10 tuning. Basically I eliminated my seventh and ninth strings. I also tune my second to D. A hold over from Jimmie Crawford lessons. I also eliminated my C pedal. I've not really found anything I can't get with the basic E9. Very little if any. I've gained much more. Here's a picture of my copedent
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 16 Apr 2017 11:50 pm
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Thanks Rick!
Get well soon,
See you in Phoenix next year!!
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Bill Ford
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Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 17 Apr 2017 4:06 am
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Thanks Rick, Maybe with the chart, I can get a better idea of the chord structure that you did in the video...Love the big basey chords, and phrases.
Prayers, and best wishes to you and yours...Bill
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Jim Smith
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Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2017 5:52 am
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Rick, any chance you might have and could either post or send pictures of your D-12/11 Dekley to my Forum email address? I built a D-11 for Wally Murphy back in the day, but don't remember building a D-12/11.
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2017 8:19 am
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Hi Jim... actually the only reason I had 11 strings on the C6 neck of my Dekley D12 was that I broke a tuner on the first string at a gig. Only after trying various ideas for that string.(a high A, and F, and a B.) After it broke, I never replaced it because it finally hit me how, once again, Buddy Emmons was truly brilliant to put the re-entrant D note on the string one position!
When Frank Carter was making the Infinity for me, he was against the idea of an D12/11 for aesthetic and many other reasons...so I had to figure out a new note I could live with. I picked an open B (per Reese's non pedal) in position 2. So now my top 4 strings on C6 are D,B,G, and E. The B in that spot is a real wild card that I'm finding a ton of uses for!
I was told when I got my Dekley, that it was originally owned by Bob White, but never got any proof of provenance. It has different fret boards than stock, with "quasars" as markers. I still love that guitar, but my back is loving me more now. 
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2017 9:05 am
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| I love that picture with the kids! |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2017 9:12 am
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thanks b0b! And to think I actually asked what I'd get paid for that when I got the call... 
It was a freebee of course, but afterwards I shoulda paid them! It just doesn't get any better than that! |
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