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Chuck Morel

 

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Pottersville, New York
Post  Posted 24 Mar 2017 4:56 am    
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Hello on my E9 neck the E string 4th down from the top continues to ring out a very annoying over tone while playing. I changed the string and I get the same thing. Any suggestions. It's almost unplayable. I'm using a Regular D"Addario 14 guitar string not a steel guitar string, is that the issue? Never had this before.
Thanks, Chuck
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Dick Wood


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Springtown Texas, USA
Post  Posted 24 Mar 2017 5:10 am    
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Check the top radius of the Finger for burs or a groove. Does it do it when it's played open?

If the pickup is on up there in years,it could possibly be microphonic. I had the same issue you're having and it was the pickup.
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2017 5:39 am    
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I have never figured out why most of my steels develop a sitar effect (groove in the the changer surface) on the 4th string and not other string.
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Ricky Davis


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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2017 6:53 am    
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I've been using a .015; as a little heavier gauge has been vibrating more solidly on the finger.
Ricky
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Jerry Jones


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Franklin, Tenn.
Post  Posted 24 Mar 2017 8:38 am    
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Earnest Bovine wrote:
I have never figured out why most of my steels develop a sitar effect (groove in the the changer surface) on the 4th string and not other string.


If the sitar effect is more pronounced with the F lever, your 4th string may have developed a slight bend from using the C pedal. The F lever places that C pedal bend right at the apex of the changer.
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Chuck Morel

 

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Pottersville, New York
Post  Posted 28 Mar 2017 3:25 am     over tones
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Thanks to all who replied, this is great information. In my process of elimination I'm leaning towards strings and p/u.
Can I still get a new E9 p\u for a Sierra Crown Gearless, D-10. Thanks so much guy's Chuck
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Rich Upright


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Florida, USA
Post  Posted 30 Mar 2017 6:34 pm    
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I don't have good luck with D' OR Ernie strings; they are often rusty out of the package, and they go dead in about half the time as GHS or SIT. And often the guages are wrong (yes; I've used a micrometer on them.)
Try GHS pedal guitar boomers.
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Marco Schouten


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Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Post  Posted 31 Mar 2017 10:06 am    
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You should also check the roller. It may have some play, a drop of heavy oil might help.
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ajm

 

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Los Angeles
Post  Posted 1 Apr 2017 7:00 am    
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I didn't see that anyone asked: Does it do it acoustically/unamplified? If so, it's not the pickup.

Does it do it for the open string, or the C pedal, or the F lever, or the Eb lever, or all of the above?

Two other things that it *might* be:
1) The angle of the string from the tuner to the nut.
2) A groove in the roller bridge. FWIW, I recently had a similar problem with this on the B string of a Strat. A little TLC and some "polishing" with some very fine sandpaper, and the problems seems to have gone away.

If/when you get it figured out, please let us know what it was.
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Jonathan Cullifer

 

From:
Gallatin, TN
Post  Posted 1 Apr 2017 5:20 pm    
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Move the string on the finger and see if it still does it. Mine get that way after a while and I just have to polish the changer till I can't see the groove anymore. Usually have to do it about once a year.
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