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What type of amp are you using?
Solid State
44%
 44%  [ 69 ]
Tube
25%
 25%  [ 40 ]
Hybrid
14%
 14%  [ 22 ]
Preamp direct to the monitor/house sound system
1%
 1%  [ 2 ]
Depends on the gig
14%
 14%  [ 23 ]
Total Votes : 156

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Carl Mesrobian


From:
Salem, Massachusetts, USA
Post Posted 30 Jan 2017 3:21 pm     Reply with quote

In my 50 years of playing I have owned many guitar amplifiers. Here's a partial list:

Ampeg B15
Southwest Technical Products 60w solid state amp from kit
SF Fender Twin Reverb with factory JBL's
BF Fender Pro Reverb
EMC solid state piggy back amp.
Acoustic 150 with 4x12 cabinet.
BF Fender Twin with EV SRO speakers.
SF Fender Vibrolux Reverb
BF Fender Bassman small piggyback 2x12
Polytone Mini Brute 12"
Fender Princeton Chorus
1970's Fender Vibrasonic with orange basket JBL
BF Princeton Reverb (what I use now)
GK MB500 with Epifani 12" cab

So, I might be nostalgic, but have tried solid state amps. Some of them have the liveliness of a stack of tortillas, for lack of a better explanation.
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Richard Sinkler


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Oakdale, California
Post Posted 30 Jan 2017 5:02 pm     Reply with quote

SF Twin Reverb w/ factory JBLs
Session 400
Session 500
Webb 6-14E head into custom JBL cabinet w/K130
Nashville 400 (my current amp)
Webb 6-14E Bradshaw amp
Fishman Loudbox (the tri-amped one) still have it
Behringer Acoustic guitar amp. Still have it.
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Lane Gray


From:
Topeka, KS
Post Posted 30 Jan 2017 5:13 pm     Reply with quote

I'm now mostly a tube guy. But my widow will be the one to sell my Session 400
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Carl Mesrobian


From:
Salem, Massachusetts, USA
Post Posted 30 Jan 2017 5:23 pm     Reply with quote

"Hybrid" in this survey is an amp with both solid state and vacuum tube signal amplification. I don't care about power supplies Smile
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Paul Arntson


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Washington, USA
Post Posted 6 Feb 2017 10:14 am     Reply with quote

Nash 1000 with reverb pan changed to 3-spring.
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Michael Butler


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California, USA
Post Posted 6 Feb 2017 11:31 am     Reply with quote

i have a bunch of tube amps and love them. however, when i'm recording, i've found that i can use the amp models in logic to create a quick rhythm guitar part and it sure fits in the mix. later, i record my other guitar part(s) with one or more of my tube amps. i try to keep an open mind on all of this stuff and i realize that it is all subjective.

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Karl Paulsen


From:
Chicago
Post Posted 6 Feb 2017 1:18 pm     Reply with quote

I'm a newbie to Pedal steel, but my Milkman Half-and-Half sounds amazing (and it's my only steel amp) so I picked Hybrid.

My main instrument is bass and there it really depends. I do gravitate toward "tube" tone and in practice situaions I feel that I can tell the difference clearly. However, in some gig situations I'd honestly be hard pressed to tell the difference between my all-tube Peavey VB4, solid state Ampeg Portabass or my hybrid Rocket Bass B100R.
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George Redmon


Post Posted 6 Feb 2017 4:11 pm     Reply with quote

All you guys using the Sarno "Steel Guitar Black Box" by rights should also be considered a hybrid player. Just try to pry that black box away from a steel player using one....ya know, just say'in. Whoa!
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Scott Appleton


From:
Half Moon Bay, California, USA
Post Posted 12 Feb 2017 8:12 pm     all those amps Reply with quote

Session 400 & 500 ..Nashville 112 , Randal steel man , Music Man 130 , Fender Twin, Vibrasonic custom, Eden bass head, Mesa Maverick, Delux Reverb , Acoustic 160 tube amp .. and now my latest is the Kemper Profiler and a Quilter steel air .. which i really like a bunch .. The Steel air is light and punchy .. sounds great .. easy to record with the built in comp .
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b0b


From:
Northern California
Post Posted 12 Feb 2017 8:22 pm     Reply with quote

For many years I used a Mesa/Boogie (tube) stacked on a Webb (solid state). Then I stopped hauling the Webb around and just used Mesa/Boogie for about 15 years. Now I am using a Milkman Half & Half (hybrid tube pre & digital power) and loving it. As powerful as my original stack, with about a quarter of the weight.
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Brad Sarno


From:
St. Louis, MO USA
Post Posted 13 Feb 2017 7:41 am     Reply with quote

Hybrid
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Bill Cunningham


From:
Atlanta, Ga. USA
Post Posted 13 Feb 2017 5:47 pm     Reply with quote

Hybrid Sarno SMS Classis + Furlong SPLIT
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Tom Mossburg


From:
AZ,
Post Posted 13 Feb 2017 6:39 pm     Amp Reply with quote

Telonics. All the way from the pickup to the speakers. Best stuff available IMHO. Best customer service.
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David Higginbotham


From:
Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
Post Posted 13 Feb 2017 7:39 pm     Reply with quote

Hybrid...Walker SS preamp into Carvin TS-100 tube power amp.
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robert kramer


From:
Nashville TN
Post Posted 13 Feb 2017 7:41 pm     Reply with quote

Black Box > Peavey
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Doug Beaumier


From:
Northampton, MA
Post Posted 13 Feb 2017 8:18 pm     Reply with quote

push/pull > black box > Quilter

for guitar... Fender BF Vibrolux Rev
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Tom Gorr


From:
Three Hills, Alberta
Post Posted 13 Feb 2017 9:06 pm     Reply with quote

Using a Peavey Heritage VTX (4x6L6 hybrid) with a Peavey Blue Marvel speaker from the original N112 amps. 8.5+/10. Looking to optimize speaker further. .. maybe even switch cabs with the Vegas to get into a 1x15 open back cab. I really love this amp! Easy to use. .. sounds great. .. two eq channels is awesome. Paid 100 bucks for it... 150 in upgrades, parts, and repairs. Never heard a cleaner more precise 6L6 power amp... better sounding than a SS Power amp or traditional 6L6 all tube amp for PSG purposes. The power amp design is. ..perfect... the onboard preamps are vg+.

Peavey Vegas with BW1502... with OPA2604 opamps.
.. 6/10.. before the chip upgrade 4.5/10... I have recently concluded the speaker is the weak link... I have always been trying to dial out the crunchy midrange this amp has ... and recently read elsewhere someone describing the 1502 as having crunchy midrange.

Peavey Bandit Transtube w/OEM Sheffield speaker.. In right room with right guitar and band. .. 9.5+/10. In wrong room/band/guitar... 3/10.... finicky but worth the hassle in intimate small band settings. When this thing is set right it is dream / to die for... tone.

1972 Fender Bandmaster Reverb Ch1 w 2×12 JBL K120. 8/10. ...or BMR with 1×15 JBL D130f 8.5/10

These BMR rigs lack clarity and crispness down into low C6 range. But above a low E... very very nice tone woth potential to be a dynamite dual channel rig with some amp mods.

MusicMan RP65 w/original Sylvania 6CA7 and MM stock speaker. Unsatisfactory for PSG in stock form.
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Quentin Hickey


From:
NS, Canada
Post Posted 21 Feb 2017 6:52 pm     Reply with quote

I have a Nashville 112 and Nashville 1000. I Recently picked up a Quilter rack. I also have a transtube bandit 112 which actually doesn't sound bad at all on steel.
Just got my quilter head. I can't wait to try it out on a proper open back 12 or a 15 ext cab.
Amps I would love to try...
Milkman Hal and half
Surgical steel
Sarno revelation preamp


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Ken Metcalf


From:
Austin Texas USA
Post Posted 22 Feb 2017 6:02 am     Reply with quote

Hybrid here.
Only prob with tube amps is if you push them hard and want clean headroom. my tubes need to be replaced every couple years.
Old twins sound good though.
I am thinking of selling my 1967 Twin for a new Telonics head. Scary Confused
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Jack Stoner


From:
Inverness, Fl
Post Posted 22 Feb 2017 6:45 am     Reply with quote

I have a Hybrid. It is a Carvin BX500 bass amp head. It has a 12AX7 tube in the preamp section, everything else is solid state.

The first stage (triode) in the 12AX7 is a true amplifier in the BX500. Many devices that have a tube are only the "starved plate" type operation and the tube is only a "buffer" and not a true amplifier. I've had several starved plate devices and they do nothing. An example is the Presonus "Blue Tube" mic/instrument preamplifiers - the 12AX7 tube operates in the starved plate mode. The small ART Tube MP preamps are also starved plate. The old Tubeworks RT922 preamp (like Herby Wallace used) is also a starved plate device.
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b0b


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Northern California
Post Posted 22 Feb 2017 8:14 am     Reply with quote

When things get loud, my ears distort before my amp does. I hear distortion from any steel amp at high volumes.
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Tom Campbell


From:
Houston, Texas, USA
Post Posted 22 Feb 2017 10:44 am     Reply with quote

Black Box+Evans SE200 w/Sica 15"
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Ad Kersten


From:
Beek en Donk, The Netherlands
Post Posted 25 Feb 2017 3:28 pm     Reply with quote

I started with a Roland GP100 and a Peavey Session 500 long ago, both solid state.
Then I switched over to Peavey Tubefex with a Peavey Classic 50/50 power amp, both tubes and also long ago.
When the Tubefex unit died, I bought a 2nd hand Digitech 2120 (tube).
The 2120 died too (OK, 20 years old unit) and last week I bought a 2nd hand Mesa Boogie Studio Preamp, also tubes....

Both the Tubefex and the 2120 had more noise than the Studio, which is by far the best preamp (but no effects).

I like tubes better, also because I play electric guitar, which benefits even more from tubes over solid state.

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Len Amaral


From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
Post Posted 25 Feb 2017 6:08 pm     Reply with quote

Tube most of the time but use SS also.
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Dale Rottacker


From:
Tacoma Washington, USA
Post Posted 25 Feb 2017 6:57 pm     Reply with quote

This is the order of ALL my amps
Fender Twin
Session 500
Session 400 Limited
Session 500
Session 400, (76)
Revelation Tube Pre-Amp
Crown XLS 1002

If I had been Lloyd Green I may have been able to make the Twin work, but I could never get what I wanted out of it.
I loved the 1st Session 500 I had, but talked my self into getting a Session 400, not realizing it would be a Limited.
Quite playing for about 8 years and got another Session 500, and have always been happy with it.... And then finally got and OLD 76 Session 400 that I added to the Session 500 and really liked the combination.
For the last year or so, I’ve been using a Revelation Pre-Amp into a Crown XLS 1002 Power Amp... I’ve REALLY been happy with this and have paired that up with a Lexicon MPX1
So I guess right now I’m happiest with the Hybrid Revelation/Crown... But then I haven’t been to the Dallas show yet... Laughing Laughing Laughing
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