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Topic: Thoughts on recovering a 1960 4-10 Bassman? |
Michael Butler
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Posted 28 Oct 2016 2:33 pm |
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what would you folks do with this one? '54 Bassman. speakers were replaced w Jensens (old ones were moth-eaten/mold-ruined), caps, some other basic elec work. sounds amazing now.
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mike: already replaced speakers so i'd retweed it. bet it sounds fantastic!!
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Stephen Cowell
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Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 28 Oct 2016 8:07 pm
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Eric, is the original tweed under the Naugahyde? Mike, your amp tells a story, I wouldn't change a thing! A lot of tweed amps got the black treatment in the early 60's.
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Jack Hanson
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San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 29 Oct 2016 3:16 am
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| Mike, your amp tells a story, I wouldn't change a thing! |
Nor would I -- that puppy looks awesome! Bet it would match up quite nicely with my ratty-looking (but perfectly functioning) old Gibson lap steels. |
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Eric Philippsen
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Central Indiana, USA
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Posted 29 Oct 2016 4:32 am
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Unfortunately, the original tweed is gone.
Interestingly, when I checked the filter caps, I noticed what I think was a factory wiring mistake. That is, for the two 20mf caps wired together, their wire (the sole red one with its original solder joints) terminates at the wrong point on the circuit board! At least, that is, as to how I compared it ten times to the 5F6-A Bassman schematic and chassis layout diagram. Mind, the amp still worked when I got it but, although it wasn't super loud, I knew it wasn't up to par.
So, thinking it wise to get a second opinion, I've taken it to the the best amp repair guru in Indy and its in his hands now. |
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Jack Hanson
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San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 29 Oct 2016 5:05 am
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| I've taken it to the the best amp repair guru in Indy and its in his hands now. |
A wise decision.
Another vote to leave the cabinet as is, ratty-looking as it may be, if it's structurally solid. If aesthetics trump all, consider installing the chassis and speakers in a new cab. |
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Stephen Cowell
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Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 31 Oct 2016 5:45 am
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| Jack Hanson wrote: |
| Eric Philippsen wrote: |
| I've taken it to the the best amp repair guru in Indy and its in his hands now. |
A wise decision.
Another vote to leave the cabinet as is, ratty-looking as it may be, if it's structurally solid. If aesthetics trump all, consider installing the chassis and speakers in a new cab. |
For Naugahyde, I'd definitely consider a re-tweed... the damage is done, and you aren't playing through a Kustom!
Have it done by a reputable house though... you don't want to lose that paper sticker inside. Or, as suggested, you can get a new cabinet... you own an amp that you can literally replace every piece with new reproduction parts.
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Mike Brenner
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 31 Oct 2016 8:23 am
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| agreed. gonna leave it be. it's been thru some wars obviously, so going to let the scars show. I play my own ratty Gibson lap steel thru it, although reg guitars sound epic as well. |
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Tom Quinn
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Posted 23 Mar 2017 8:34 am
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Older thread. The late and very great Sam Hutton was by far the best at restoring Fender tweed cabinets. He was the cabinet foreman for Fender for many years and a real artist at getting the amps to look as right as the material allowed.
I've owned more than a dozen vintage Bassmans. And a pile of other tweeds, Champs through hi-power Twins. I currently have my first one, a 1960 with the plastic dog handle that looks the same now as it did in 1971 when I bought it. The electronics have been reworked and the speakers are CTS alnicos with substantially bigger voice coils than any CTS I've ever seen.
Of all the Bassmans I've owned from 1954-1960, this is THE ONE. If I ever recover it, I'll do it like the one the late Tary Owens of Austin days had: in brown tolex. That's right. There were a few made at the end of the run in that covering. The new tweed doesn't look anything like the original. You can spot it a mile away.
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Eric Philippsen
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Central Indiana, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2017 12:01 pm
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I got the amp back from the tech. All it needed was to have the power supply caps replaced with blue Spragues, one coupling cap, and the factory wiring mistake corrected. It sounds great.
I opted to not have it retweeded because, with its non-original black vinyl, I can carry it around without worrying about beating up any new tweed. Actually, in a way, the covering it has looks kind of cool, beat up here and there but not too much. |
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Steven Paris
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Los Angeles
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Posted 24 Mar 2017 5:25 pm
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How 'bout a picture?
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Tom Quinn
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Posted 24 Mar 2017 5:50 pm
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I know you were asking the other fellow, but here is the same amp above some 46 years later...
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Steven Paris
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Los Angeles
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Posted 28 Mar 2017 8:46 pm
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Cool pictures, thanks! How old is your Tele?
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J Fletcher
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London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 29 Mar 2017 8:57 am
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| Cool old amp. A '54 would have the output tube plate supply on the other side of the choke than a 5f6a. |
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Jay Ganz
From:
Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 31 Mar 2017 10:15 am
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Gotta get some of my old tweeds recovered one of these days. 
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Sam Marshall
From:
Chandler, AZ USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2017 5:52 pm
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I worked on the Buck Owens recovered Bassman.
It was recovered by Fender because they wanted it to look up to date.
Buck loved the amp because the whole band sometimes plugged into it at one time. (Good memories!)
It sounded great after we put the original tube back into V1.
Sam |
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