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Steve Mueller

 

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Post  Posted 22 May 2016 7:05 pm    
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Who makes Cryo strings other than Live Steel and GHS?
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 23 May 2016 12:36 am    
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Dean Markley does.
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Dick Wood


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Post  Posted 23 May 2016 5:18 am    
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I'm pretty sheltered and after 37 years of steelin,I have never heard of or know what good Cryogenic strings are or why it's a good thing.

What's it all about?
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 23 May 2016 5:32 am    
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It changes the not-quite-crystalline structure.
Cryogenic tempering is done for some high-stress applications like gun barrels.
I'm not a metallurgist, so I couldn't say whether it makes steel more fit-for-purpose for guitar strings, or whether it's bells and whistles for their own sakes.
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Rick Barnhart


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Post  Posted 23 May 2016 5:34 am    
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Dick, they don't go dead like conventional strings, they make your guitar sound really cool, then they thaw out. Wink
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Dick Wood


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Post  Posted 23 May 2016 8:43 am    
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I thought it was where you put dead strings so maybe they could be brought back and used again some day.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 23 May 2016 9:08 am    
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According to Lester Flatt, that's lacquer thinner. He reportedly used three sets for years: one on the guitar, one in the jar of thinner, and one drying in the air. Rotate as needed.
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 23 May 2016 10:43 am    
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right dick! you can freeze your old strings. then when you thaw them out in a hundred years they'll still be old for that vintage sound! Laughing
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David Mason


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Cambridge, MD, USA
Post  Posted 23 May 2016 11:02 am    
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The heck with strings! You could probably use a bottle of hootch to bribe a min-wage dishwasher at a big hotel to sneak you in to the walk-in freezer; hide behind the cases of fresh fish and fresh meat, who knows WHEN and WHERE you'll be when they wake you up?!? Adventure! A course the smart guys are having their head, or even just the brain, removed first, I guess it saves on utility bills in the long run. You can't be stickin' people with too much cost, might generate some "trust issues."
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John Swain


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Winchester, Va
Post  Posted 23 May 2016 4:30 pm    
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GHS Americana strings are cryogenic and last forever(5months so far!)
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 24 May 2016 4:10 am    
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I'm just glad to hear they're not touted as strings that make your steel cry better.
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John Scanlon


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Jackson, Mississippi, USA
Post  Posted 24 May 2016 11:04 am    
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Lane Gray wrote:
It changes the not-quite-crystalline structure.
Cryogenic tempering is done for some high-stress applications like gun barrels.
I'm not a metallurgist, so I couldn't say whether it makes steel more fit-for-purpose for guitar strings, or whether it's bells and whistles for their own sakes.


We could always ask John Pearse. http://www.jpstrings.com/braccess.htm#TCBar
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Henry Matthews


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Texarkana, Ark USA
Post  Posted 25 May 2016 10:50 am    
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I thought it was a sales gimmick. I've tried them and can't tell any difference between them and just plain old GHS or S.I.T. strings. To each his own I guess.
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Steve Lipsey


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Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 25 May 2016 12:09 pm    
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Henry-
It isn't how they sound, it is how long they sound that way before going dead...I use cryo Live Steel and they seem to sound the same just about forever....and about the same as the Live Steel non-cryo...

they do seem to tune differently at first - regular strings stretch a bunch and then stabilize quickly, the cryo strings seem to stretch not as much at first, but continue stretching a little for quite a while. No big deal, just touch up the open tuning before playing for a while...esp. the 3rd string.

disclaimer - I'm just an old guy who doesn't have the best ears any more...(and, actually, never did, to judge by my playing).
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Darrell Grigsby


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Jonesburg, Missouri
Post  Posted 18 Jun 2016 6:19 am     cryogenic strings
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I've been using the GHS Americana strings on three steel
guitars---since I tried the Live strings. So far, I have
liked them.

But---I put a new set on my Mullen G2, last night.
(I use a Zirc bar, very slick). I was in my music room---
so there was not a lot of noise, around me.

After tuning up and playing awhile, I noticed there was
a loud squeaky sound from the strings. This is the first
time that the noise has been noticed. I tried a different
bar---Bill Stroud bar---same problem.

I pulled out my Show Pro--with same GHS Americana strings-no squeaky sounds.

Anyone else have this problem?
I sent a letter to GHS. I await their answer.

Darrell
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 18 Jun 2016 3:50 pm    
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i miss the strong sets of emmons rollerwound in the green packs.
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