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Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 23 Apr 2016 3:02 pm    
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Well I don’t know if this could be something interesting or useful in playing this style in songs other than Last Date
So before I waste a lot of time on this give me your opinion.

Well I didn’t take the time to research this enough to learn the proper musical term for this so I just call it Cramer Tech as in Floyd Cramer Style.

I listen to Cramer’s version of Last Date and then transcribed the style into a major scale.
I ran it through my spreadsheet E9 Neck Calculator and came up with a scale but I used the “A” major scale for this project shown from frets 0 through 12. If you want more just repeat the form frets 12 thru 24.

I am sure there are more options but this is easy to remember and stays in line “A’ scale positions and seems to be very playable. It does require a little bar movement at times but noting too extreme.

Here is simple example in Tab and the tab in midi of this the last 6 Bars of Last Date. Followed by a tab template of the "A" major scale in Cramer.
I did this in a hurry and I’m sure your played version could make corrections and flow better.
click line below for audio.
The midi for Last 6 bars of Last Date
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Barry Blackwood


Post  Posted 23 Apr 2016 4:18 pm    
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Old news. Neutral
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/006517.html
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 23 Apr 2016 4:29 pm    
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last date always laid out easily on
the e9 neck.
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Skip Edwards

 

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Post  Posted 24 Apr 2016 11:01 am    
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Floyd pretty much based that hammer on style of piano from trying to emulate what he heard the steel doing.
Some of us piano players like to call them "Floydian Slips".
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 24 Apr 2016 11:14 am    
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Skip Edwards wrote:
Floyd pretty much based that hammer on style of piano from trying to emulate what he heard the steel doing.


I thought he got it from Chopin Opus 25 # 5 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkdgFfKIWbA


And as long as you are digging Pollini playing opus 25, don't miss #11:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJMIIxm1bGo
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Skip Edwards

 

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Post  Posted 25 Apr 2016 6:54 am    
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Wow... thanks for that, Doug.
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Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 25 Apr 2016 8:35 am    
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Pollini is wonderful but there is an endless number of all things musical going on there but I refer only to the one most prevalent simple concept of the Cramer Style.
I wasn't trying to show how to play Last Date.
I was only using the tab to show some positions where there are possibilities on the E9 neck to play through the whole scale in this simple concept.
To me it did not seem to fall together through the whole scale on the E9 neck all that easily and appeared to me as though it would at lest require a little study or some hunting.
Disclaimer: This is not meant to say that Chris and most of you folks here couldn't do the whole scale on the first try.
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 25 Apr 2016 8:57 am    
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I was nervous, bass player and the drummer didn't know the song That's how we played it (in C):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzWN5rINry0
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Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 26 Apr 2016 7:52 am    
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Sounded fine to me.
I like the fact that you just went for it and played what was on your mind instead of mechanically playing a canned version learned from tab.
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 26 Apr 2016 8:54 am    
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Thanks. The first time I've heard it it was played by Lovin Spoonful guitarist Zally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUfrp2kg4Dg
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 26 Apr 2016 10:19 am    
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I also liked it to, Joachim, for the same reasons as Stuart. Ya'll were having fun. It is a good tune for pedal steel.
You kind of got that west coast sound, or maybe from Chopin's area. Bakersfield, I think.
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 26 Apr 2016 11:05 am    
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Thank you Charlie!
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Chris Scruggs

 

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Post  Posted 17 Jun 2016 2:11 pm    
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You've got it the other way around, the "slip note" piano style was meant to sound like a pedal steel guitar.
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Curry Coster

 

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Post  Posted 17 Jun 2016 5:54 pm    
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I play like Liberace......lots of smiling and throwing my hands up in the air.....
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b0b


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Post  Posted 17 Jun 2016 6:55 pm    
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I play "Last Date" fairly often. People like it.
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