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Dennis Smith

 

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Covington, Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 8 Jan 2016 11:53 pm    
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This is the Kate Smith show from 1952 with the GOO at that time. The whole show is good to me. About half way Hank Williams plays Cold Cold Heart when Don Helms has his a solo the guitar player next to him is playing a Bisby guitar. Anyone know who he is.
https://youtu.be/71BUPcHKLbI
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Lee Holliday


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Post  Posted 9 Jan 2016 12:55 am    
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Not sure on your question regarding the Bigsby but is so often the case watching this clip has led to a new discovery as the next act after hank was Lonzo & Oscar with there comedic steel playing cousin Jody, great fun and makes you remember that behind the comedy is a good player.

Looked like some sort of harmony he was playing???

Thanks for the discovery.

Lee
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Dennis Smith

 

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Covington, Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 9 Jan 2016 7:38 am    
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Lee, near the end of the song Don has a short solo and to his left when they show him is a guitar player with what looks like a Bigsby 6 string guitar. I didn't think there was but a few made by him and was interested in who the player was. I don't think I had ever seen one played live before by anyone. Lucky to have even this in any condition I guess. We watched Kate Smith Show very week when I was a kid.
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Stephen Cowell


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Round Rock, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 9 Jan 2016 8:24 am    
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This should make it easier for folks to participate...

https://youtu.be/71BUPcHKLbI?t=11m42s
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 9 Jan 2016 9:47 am    
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sammy pruett? or how about a young grady martin? there is a name on the lower part of the pickguard...not clear enough to make it out. martin is pictured with williams in germany in 1949 playing a bigsby guitar. here is a promo pic of him. dont know what year this is.



here is the 49' pic in germany.


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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 9 Jan 2016 10:00 am     On Volume #2 with Roy Acuff..................
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Who might that harmoniker player be?

To me, there's a resemblance of one of the Wilburn Brothers??????????
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Billy Easton

 

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Nashville, TN USA
Post  Posted 9 Jan 2016 12:10 pm    
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Ray...

Harmoniker??? I always called that an accordion~
I do think that is Billy Robinson with the lap steel.
Billy
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Post  Posted 9 Jan 2016 1:12 pm    
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Billy Easton wrote:
Ray...

Harmoniker??? I always called that an accordion~
I do think that is Billy Robinson with the lap steel.
Billy


yes that is robinson on lap steel. berlin germany 1949.
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Dennis Smith

 

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Covington, Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 9 Jan 2016 1:22 pm    
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I found this looking for Sammy.
Don Helms, Sammy Pruett & the Drifting Cowboys
Twin Guitar Poka
https://youtu.be/AQL09HSS3EY
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Will Lindsay

 

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Chicago, Illinois
Post  Posted 9 Jan 2016 5:51 pm    
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It might have been someone from the house band. Chet Atkins played guitar on the studio sessions around that time.
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Chris March


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Portland, OR
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2016 2:47 am    
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I believe that's Billy Byrd on guitar. Perhaps the guitar is one of Grady Martin's, who is playing bass.
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2016 10:48 am    
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Chris March wrote:
I believe that's Billy Byrd on guitar. Perhaps the guitar is one of Grady Martin's, who is playing bass.


thats a good guess. i looked for some pics of billy byrd in that band uniform. that does not look like grady martin playing upright bass on the video where williams is introduced by acuff.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2016 12:36 pm    
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Grady Martin owned that Bigsby until he traded it for his double neck standard guitar about five months after this television show. The next owner was Billy something, but not Billy Byrd. However, coincidentally, that looks like Billy Byrd playing the Hank Garland Bigsby.
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Chris March


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Post  Posted 15 Jan 2016 2:39 am    
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http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/thedriftingcowboys/bios.html

My bad – I knew that wasn't Grady! I should've taken a closer look. He did play bass for Hank occasionally. This site says Jack Drake was on bass. And Grady, not pictured, was on fiddle.
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Chris March


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Post  Posted 15 Jan 2016 2:47 am    
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Ah crap, I really messed up! I didn't see the link in the original post and got all mixed up, thinking that photo from '49 was taken at some point during the '52 Kate Smith appearance. It's been a long time coming – I think I'm finally suffering a superfluous trivia meltdown.
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Andy Alford

 

Post  Posted 15 Jan 2016 1:30 pm     On the road
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On some dates Hank would use the local musicians. When he played Sunset Park at times he would do this. He would carry Don and Jerry but other musicians might be used
on the road. Of course he had his band but I know this was done.
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 15 Jan 2016 3:39 pm    
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It's a long video. For those who don't want to listen to the entire thing, Don's instrumental comes in at about 11mins 30secs.
Of course, once you start listening it's so gripping you'll want to keep listening, and the following number is a great duet between Hank and Anita Carter, introduced by June Carter. Cool
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