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Topic: Love this trend of mixing steel with pop music |
Johan Jansen
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Ford Cole
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Posted 28 Nov 2015 7:31 am |
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| Am very interested in how this approach can be applied to contemporary Christian praise music. Any ideas? |
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Earnest Bovine
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Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2015 8:15 am
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| Ford Cole wrote: |
| ...how this approach can be applied to contemporary Christian praise music. Any ideas? |
Change the lyrics. |
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Jim Pitman
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Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2015 4:59 pm
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Wow, that was secular of you Doug! You are a brave man.
The last three bands I've been playing PSG in are alot like this in that they are far from mainstream country. This is out of necessity. In my area modern country music has become too specific and the demographic is no longer big enough to support it - VT.
This wasn't always the case. There was a call for "neotraditonal" back in the 80s and 90s and I played in a few mainstream country bands then, and there are still a couple traditional country/Honky Tonk/Rockabily bands remaining that I do a pickup gig with.
It seems now though other folks ears have tired of modern country like mine have..... but long live the pedal steel! |
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 29 Nov 2015 4:29 am
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| Jim Pitman wrote: |
| Wow, that was secular of you Doug! You are a brave man. |
He was merely listening. I've heard songs that I couldn't tell their leaning except by the lyrics.
Style of interpretation isn't written into the music.
I like Any Vegetable, Johan. |
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Jim Pitman
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Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2015 9:06 am
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| Indeed I misinterpretted that Charlie. |
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Chris Walke
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St Charles, IL
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Posted 1 Dec 2015 8:39 am
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| Ford Cole wrote: |
| Am very interested in how this approach can be applied to contemporary Christian praise music. Any ideas? |
I play pedal steel in church somewhat frequently. Stop thinking "steel guitar" and start thinking "ornamental instrument" and go from there. Play whatever the song calls for, compliment the melody, support the chord structure, answer vocal lines with subtle licks.
Best thing about players like Leisz & Heywood is they are very present yet very transparent. |
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James Jacoby
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 2 Dec 2015 2:01 pm Re: Love this trend of mixing steel with pop music
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IMO,this song sounds more "country" than the stuff they're actually labeling as country these days.
.[/quote] Exactly what I was thinking, also! -Jake- |
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Ron Sodos
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San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 2 Dec 2015 2:46 pm Call me a stick in the mud
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I don't like any of the clips on this post. I really tried to open my mind to the conversation and I appreciate the attempt to expand the scope of steel guitar. The stuff is just so MELLOW it almost put me to sleep. I also appreciate the effort on the part of the musicians and I applaud the efforts of the steel players. But so WIMPY ! Give me Robert Randolph anytime or Mike Smith out of Phoenix now that is cool stuff. Sorry if i offended anyone but steel can do all sorts of things. This stuff is way too mild for me.
O by the way I hate "Bro Country". I would listen to Jim Loessberg's BeBop Jazz album all day long so its not like I am stuck in the honky tonk mode although I still love classic country. |
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Tony Palmer
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Posted 14 Dec 2015 8:08 am
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That's a fair assessment Ron. For some reason, when the pedal steel is used this way, it does seem to be most used in slow very melodic songs. Although my post admittedly promotes the country/roots/folk genre, the greater point is to show how our instrument has expanded itself into a somewhat different role other than standard E9 country licks.
The only up tempo songs I can think of in this same vein are mostly lapsteel like Lindley with Jackson Brown or Bruce Bouton with Garth Brooks.
Most of the sound I'm referring to though, is a lot more like cello playing I suppose, so yeah, prob not everyone's cup of tea.
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Johan Jansen
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Posted 19 Dec 2015 9:40 am
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| I don't like any of the clips on this post. I really tried to open my mind to the conversation and I appreciate the attempt to expand the scope of steel guitar. The stuff is just so MELLOW it almost put me to sleep. I also appreciate the effort on the part of the musicians and I applaud the efforts of the steel players. But so WIMPY ! Give me Robert Randolph anytime or Mike Smith out of Phoenix now that is cool stuff. Sorry if i offended anyone but steel can do all sorts of things. This stuff is way too mild for me. |
Ron, is this more the style you like?
http://soundcloud.com/steeljj/bottom-feeder-blues-by-any-vegetable-from-the-album-veg-out
Happy XMas, Johan |
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 19 Dec 2015 9:51 am
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That rocks. |
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Ron Sodos
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San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2015 10:37 am
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| Not really. Too much like rap. |
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Jan Viljoen
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Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted 27 Dec 2015 9:48 pm pedal steel
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Watch this band consisting of two sisters playing Emmylou, with the real Emmylou in the audience.
The band is First Aid Kit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3TzP-o4vhs
Let the games begin!
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Patrick Thornhill
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Austin Texas, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2016 4:03 pm
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I caught First Aid Kit at the Austin City Limits festival a few years ago and was an instant fan.
Damir, I've often thought that song would make a good waltz if you want to suggest it! 
(For those unfamiliar with the original, well,...you may be in for a surprise: http://youtu.be/hXCKLJGLENs)  |
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Bryan Daste
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2016 6:50 pm
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This is really the style I go for in my playing. Texture, dimension, depth, economy. Greg Leisz and Eric Heywood are great at it! Also, it lets the steel step out of the box, so to speak, and work across more styles and genres. Which gets the pedal steel in general more exposure to people who aren't necessarily country music fans, but when they hear that "weird instrument," they love it!
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 5 Jan 2016 3:42 am
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Relative to what Bryan said, I think a lot of players want to hear steel in its classical form and don't see its possibilities for the future.
There are things no other instrument can do, and it hasn't been tapped to its fullest. It can be rich and full without losing that distinctive sound. |
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Dale Rottacker
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Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Patrick Thornhill
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Austin Texas, USA
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Henry Matthews
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Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2016 2:47 pm
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Some good steel work in all those but none of that is pop or even rock, it's the new country to me.
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Patrick Thornhill
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Austin Texas, USA
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Bobby D. Jones
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West Virginia, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2016 10:02 pm Love this trend of mixing steel with pop music
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| The Smooth haunting music of Steel, cello and strings opens a persons mind, So the rest of the music and vocal can enter and give a person great inter feeling, while hearing the music. Red Sovine, Conway Twitty, used the steel to set the mood for many of their hit songs. Ray Price and Conway in later years went from steel, To cello and strings to make people feel their music deeper within. I think the Steel has a place in pop music. Some of the examples of steel music in this thread shows how much it can add to pop music. |
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Bryan Daste
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 12 Jan 2016 3:57 am
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Beautiful, Bryan.
This got me to listening to others by The Joshua Incident. Very fine.
| Bryan Daste wrote: |
| The steel functions in the song much as a string section or organ would. |
This would be a good future for steel guitar, replacing sampled orchestrations. |
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