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Topic: What is your "sky is the limit" dream pedal steel? |
Dustin Rhodes
From:
Owasso OK
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 11:19 am |
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Am I the only one out there that wants things that don't exist?
For me it would be-
ZB aesthetic and build style (cast aluminum, maple, etc.)
Modern 3 up 3 down changer
12 string ext. E9 down 1 step to D9.
Double Body with pad and Vol/Tone/Pickup selector switch plate
ZB Bridge pickup (triple tap) and custom 12 string neck pickup made like a tele neck pickup (doesn't exist) |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 11:32 am
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Dustin Rhodes
From:
Owasso OK
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 11:40 am
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| Earnest Bovine wrote: |
| electronically controlled changer that senses string tension |
I'm a mechanical design engineer and I've thought about some sort of servo controlled changer but wouldn't that take a lot of the expression out of it? |
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Stephen Cowell
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Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 3:23 pm
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| Dustin Rhodes wrote: |
| Earnest Bovine wrote: |
| electronically controlled changer that senses string tension |
I'm a mechanical design engineer and I've thought about some sort of servo controlled changer but wouldn't that take a lot of the expression out of it? |
I used to think that... then I got a fly-by-wire Harley. With proportional control, there's no reason to not have infinite-raise/infinite-lower guitars... the possibilities are endless.
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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John Peay
From:
Cumming, Georgia USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 5:09 pm
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One of those guitars that Lane Gray talks about, where he "thinks the notes, and they come out of the amp." I'm working on that, and will have one in the near future.
Otherwise, a new SD-10 Show-Pro.
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Dustin Rhodes
From:
Owasso OK
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 5:09 pm
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I am. Beautiful steels but no 12 or 3 up 3 down changer at least to my knowledge. |
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Tim Russell
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 5:10 pm
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Looks cool -
Do ZB's typically have the adjustment knobs so high up on the legs like the ones in the gallery? I can't say I've noticed that before.
For me, I would be happy with a 10/10 like Jimmie Crawford used to play.
However, I hope I live to see the day when they use electro/mechanical changers with infinite-raise/infinite-lowers. 
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John Scanlon
From:
Jackson, Mississippi, USA
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Tim Russell
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 5:33 pm
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| John Scanlon wrote: |
| Earnest Bovine wrote: |
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But when you raised or lowered a string, wouldn't it compensate and defeat the purpose? |
Ideally, you would program the changes that you want into an electronic brain (similar to the ones used with electronic drums).
I can see it all now - they would be featured like the modeling amps we have now. I have several modeling amps, and it's pretty cool to have a Fender Tweed/Blackface, British amp/Marshall/ more all at the turn of a dial.
It would come loaded with presets of copedents of all your favorite players, plus custom settings to program your own.
Endless possibilities - The sky would be the limit. Wish I had enough electronics smarts to design something like this...
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Rich Upright
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 5:55 pm
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I would want my old MSA classic D 10 back. Nothing I ever owned sounded better, including my 68 bolt on.
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Philip Mitrakos
From:
The Beach South East Florida
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 5:56 pm
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A Blond S-10 Sho~Bud that's been in the case for 37 years...
Just sayin
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John Boogerd
From:
Calgary, Canada
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 7:09 pm
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| The one I recently bought A Jackson Shobud 1963 Madison |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 7:46 pm
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Ross Shafer knows what I want, but he won't build it for me.  I want a guitar built like his top secret prototype, but with 9 strings, 6 pedals, 6 knees (2 verticals).
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Jason Duguay
From:
Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 7:52 pm
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love the one you're with.
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 8:34 pm
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First I would like to master the guitars I already have. ..
but....
Having one of every model of guitar ever made would be nice too.
Other days I wish I had one steel with six strings and two pedals. |
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Richard Alderson
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 10:03 pm My Dream Guitar Must be out there somewhere !
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Haw Haw !– What an easy question ! First ! I want Laquer. Not a Mica. Second. Two tone and blue as Jimmy Day’s Darling. Third, its gotta have at least 5x5 on the E9th neck, with the unison lick F# to G# and Eb to E on strings one and two and G# to F# on string six just for good measure. Fourth its gotta have 12 strings on the C6th neck for a super fat low ass tone on that last bass string. Fifth its gotta be built by a modern expert who will hand pick the parts himself and select only the best cause its gonna be his guitar. That might be a hard one. Sixth, its gotta cost less than $5,000; cause’ I’m cheap sometimes. Damn !! Where the X$%^ am I gonna get a guitar like that !? I must be dreamin’.
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 17 Sep 2015 3:37 am
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Mechatronic changer as part of a regular-looking keyhead, w/finite raise/lower (+/-3mm) since strings don't work or sound well if raised or lowered too far from optimized tension.
Memory-banks for half-a-dozen pedal/lever set-up alternatives, and auto-compensation covering all strings to achieve JI intervals regardless of pedal/lever combos.
I have some thoughts about having pedal/lever set-up switching on-the-fly built in - mainly to minimize the number of pedals/levers needed, but apart from that I do not want too much "automization".
Combine the above with a free-floating ("semi-detached") neck/bridge structure tuned/tunable for tone and stability - no mechanical compromises, and the contraption will be well on the way towards my "dream steel"  |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 17 Sep 2015 4:18 am
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I'd just like to see one that had a place to put your picks and bar when you weren't playing. 
Is that asking too much? |
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 17 Sep 2015 5:13 am
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An changer that changes its tuning as I change my mind.
It's not a completely original idea; a parallel from Ask Buddy, April 11, 2002:
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| In 1956, I read that a man opened a gate by having devices taped to his head that read brain waves and sent them to a controller on the gate. When he thought about opening the gate, it opened. Ever since, I've imagined a tone changer setup that would respond to brain waves. I figured if you could send a thought or message to your foot, why not a controller that would respond according to the speed or feel your brain demanded of it. |
I imagine, Georg, that somebody is going to get around to your thinking, using local memory banks rather than remote ones (in the brain).
What seems like a remote idea at present isn't so far off in the future at the rate we're moving. |
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Quentin Hickey
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 17 Sep 2015 7:15 am
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I love my steels. I would just like to win a life time lacky to setup, tear down, and transport my gear from the practice room to the dance hall.
Some people on the forum here claims that theyre wifes do it but it seems pretty far fetched to me
lol! |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 20 Sep 2015 8:57 am
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I try to keep a list,Every now and then I change something on the list! 
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Matthew Dawson
From:
Portland Oregon, USA
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Posted 20 Sep 2015 10:50 pm
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
I'd just like to see one that had a place to put your picks and bar when you weren't playing.
Is that asking too much? |
Todd Clinesmith will put a retractable ash-tray on his guitars. For those of us that don't smoke while playing that could work to hold the bar and picks. Not a bad guitar either. |
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Marco Schouten
From:
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 21 Sep 2015 4:13 am
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Lloyd Green's LDG.....
It will probably never be for sale though and I will still sound as #%^%#& as I do now, but still, that would be my dream guitar.
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