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Topic: Push Pull sensitivity to different string gauges? |
Olli Haavisto
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Posted 13 Sep 2015 10:06 am |
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I just bought a 1975 Emmons D-10 which is gorgeous...
Expertly set up by Jan Visser in the Netherlands, it plays really well and has THE sound...
I'll be putting new strings on it soon and would like to know if putting on a 017 instead of a 018 or a 036 instead of a 038 will throw the set up out of whack?
Or will a simple tuning of a few pedals be enough?
The PP is a totally new world to me mechanically. The tone has been in my head for 40 years, though.
Thanks!
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Olli Haavisto
Finland
Last edited by Olli Haavisto on 15 Sep 2015 8:23 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Tom Quinn
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Posted 13 Sep 2015 10:55 am
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No problem, probably a minor tune at most. You have a great steel...
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 13 Sep 2015 11:41 am
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Thanks, Tom. It's a good one, for sure!
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Jay Ganz
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Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 13 Sep 2015 4:19 pm
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Any reason why you want to go with a lighter gauge on those two strings?
You will have to make a slight adjustment of each allen screw on the endplate. |
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Tom Quinn
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Posted 13 Sep 2015 4:23 pm
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What Jay said. These guitars work best with the standard string size.
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 13 Sep 2015 9:10 pm
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Having interchangeable spare strings with my other guitars would be nice....
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 13 Sep 2015 11:42 pm
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Olli Haavisto
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Tom Quinn
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 4:06 am
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Being cheap with strings or a great running guitar. Your call... ;- )
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 4:34 am
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I would suggest not changing string gauges.
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 7:49 am
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| I prefer the heavier strings, Buddy did too. |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 9:10 am
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| Tom Quinn wrote: |
| What Jay said. These guitars work best with the standard string size. |
I believe that quite a few of the E9 sets are now coming with the .017 and .036 as "standard".
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Lee, from South Texas - Down On The Rio Grande
There are only two options as I see it.
Either I'm right, or there is a sinister conspiracy to conceal the fact that I'm right.
Williams Keyless S-10, BMI S-10, Evans FET-500LV, Fender Steel King, 2 Roland Cube 80XL's,
Sarno FreeLoader, Goodrich Passive Volume Pedals, Vintage ACE Pack-A-Seat |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 9:21 am
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| it will work fine with whatever strings you put on it and adjust for. |
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Bob Hoffnar
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 12:36 pm
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The rub is that the string guages affect the set up. Adjusting a PP can be pretty subtle. Timing the stops is an art form I am not good at.
I'm sort of lazy so once I get a PP so it feels good to me I don't change anything.
I just sold a PP to a buddy and am having it set up first. The guy doing the work needed to know the string guages where going to be consistent before starting.
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 1:05 pm
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| yeah but that's true of any steel to a certain degree. |
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Mike Wheeler
From:
Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 1:40 pm
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Bob speaks the truth. Do you want your PP "close enough", or "just right". Your choice, Ollie.
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Drew Pierce
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Arkansas, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 2:57 pm
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That's a beauty, Olli. Congratulations! As far as having interchangeable spare strings, you'll not likely need spare .36s or .38s as they virtually never break. Fifth strings do break occasionally, but it would not be a problem to have a couple of each in the pack-a-seat. But since you like the way it plays and sounds right now, I wouldn't change a thing.
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Drew Pierce
Emmons D10 Fatback, S10 bolt-on, Zum D10, Evans RE500, Hilton volume and delay pedals. |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 4:30 pm
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| Mike Wheeler wrote: |
| Bob speaks the truth. Do you want your PP "close enough", or "just right". Your choice, Ollie. |
so learn how to adjust it. |
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Mike Wheeler
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Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 5:29 pm
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But not everyone wants to be a mechanic to enjoy driving their car, chris. Some people want a mechanic to adjust everything to perfection and then let the the owner race it around the track. Same goes for a PP.
And changing string gauges can involve more than just re-tuning a couple pulls.
I know you're very aware of all this, chris.
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 7:11 pm
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| Swapping out a .017 for an .018 or a .036 for a .038 shouldn't pose any problem greater than minor end plate tuner screw adjustment. Push pulls inherently must be set up with a bit of slack, so they're generally pretty forgiving.....especially when using slightly lighter strings. |
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 14 Sep 2015 10:50 pm
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Thanks guys,
I think I'll get SIT Buddy Emmons Signature sets, they have the right gauges.
And a few 018 spares 
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Olli Haavisto
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Jay Ganz
From:
Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 15 Sep 2015 4:28 am
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| Been using those for years! |
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