What's your favorite bar slant?

b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

What bar slant(s) do you use most often on pedal steel guitar? I'd like to expand my knowledge by learning what others are doing.

(Please don't reply if you don't do slants.)
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Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

For the 7th chord that people make with the F lever, I use a reverse slant.
On the C6th neck, I'll sometimes use a corner slant instead of hitting either P5 or P6.
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b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

F lever? 8,6,5
P5? 2,3,5
P6? 3,4,6
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Craig Baker · From: Eatonton, Georgia, USA - R.I.P.

b0b,
Here's a link to some of my favorite slants. All by Buddy Charleton and all in one clip.

http://picosong.com/uAXq

The first is the intro to "Half A Mind" He grabs a forward slant for the 4th chord of the intro.

Next is a reverse slant from "The Waltz You Saved For Me". It's the last chord the steel plays before the lead guitar begins.

Finally a pretty ending to Norma Jean's version of "It Keeps Right On A Hurtin" The first four chords of the five-chord ending are a reverse slant. The second and fourth chord are with the B pedal down.

Interesting to note that during this era, Buddy Charleton never raised his Es, but did some beautiful slants.

Craig
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Gordy Rex · From: Southport, NC

Bob G7 to C

strings 3 and 5 A pedal
frets 3 and 4

resolve to fret 3 A and B pedal...

I use this a lot sound good and looks cool...
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b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

Thanks, Lane.

What strings and frets, Craig?

Good one, Gordy! Smile

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W. Van Horn · From: Houston, texas

Gordy - that's a great one. Paul Franklin sometimes resolves that G7 slant to a c9. 3 and 5 with A pedal on frets 3 and 4 to strings 3 and 5 A + B pedals fret one. Going from G to C dominant leading to F.

Gary Lee Gimble · From: Fredericksburg, VA.

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

For those of you who don't know what I mean by "corner slant", that's using the way the bar turns a corner at the tip to hit the top pair of strings at the same fret, while putting the Thicker string on a lower fret.
If you put the nose of the bar hitting strings 3 and 4 at the 7th fret, and the middle of the bar fretting string 6 at the 6th fret, you get a C7th chord, like hitting p6
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John Davis · From: Cambridge, U.K.

Don't know if this works on "Emmons" set up but its all I have in that department.
https://youtu.be/x_RSG61D-h0

David Donn · From: New South Wales, Australia

I like this one.

Em7 (G and D) to A (A and C#)

Dale Rottacker · From: Walla Walla Washington, USA

Iâ€™ve been trying to incorporate more slants into my playing, but avoided them for years... However itâ€™s been pointed out to me, how much fun they can be, and how different they sound in comparison to pedals or knee levers doing it for you...

I apologize for not knowing how to trim a few seconds out of a video to just just shoe the slant part so hereâ€™s the whole thing, but the slant is between 40 seconds to about 50... itâ€™s a backwards sliding reverse slant â€œI guessâ€, but instead of using the normal just 3rd and 5th string for this I also used the 4th while raising the forth with the F lever... I love the added dissonance and resolve this gives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luRMFw9K0TY
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Ray Montee · From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)

Having learned my pedal playing way back when Bud Issics was the man......I find your playing and bar usage to be exceptionally fine. Lots of great sounds. I truly enjoyed hearing your play.

Dale Rottacker · From: Walla Walla Washington, USA

Bent Romnes · From: London,Ontario, Canada

Wow, Dale, I never realized what a fine player you are until just now!
Thanks for posting The Old Rugged Cross
I subscribed to you on youtube.
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Dale Rottacker · From: Walla Walla Washington, USA

Dale Rottacker · From: Walla Walla Washington, USA

This thread got me wanting to do some more slants... so in this song I got three worked in, which is probably more than Iâ€™ve ever put in a dozen songs... I even got a forward slant in, I think like Terry Crisp did in Lord, She Sure is Good at Loving Me, with Ricky Scaggs back in the 90â€™s I think... I didnâ€™t pull it off as well, but I did make the attempt... Slants are cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJVjtnSgxIY
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Roger Guyett · From: San Francisco, Ca.

Bob - I'm trying to incorporate more slants too....here's a simple
one (you probably know this one already)

From any "no Pedals" chord position on strings 6, 5 and 4....forward slant 2 frets on string 4 and hit the A pedal (string 5 therefore slants one fret forward)....you'll get the 7th chord. It's actually the 9th, 7th and 3rd of that chord position.

Dave Campbell · From: Nova Scotia, Canada

i was transcribing some endings today and found this gem by lloyd green, from "lovesick blues" on charley pride in person.

you can accomplish this with knee levers and no slant but it doesn't have the same ring to it, and isn't really as fun.

Michael Johnstone · From: Sylmar,Ca. USA

I don't really have a favorite. Just whatever gets the job done. After studying Byrd and Joaquin who taught me a lot about slanting - I just started trying to play what was in my head and slanting when I had to to achieve the necessary combinations. The most challenging ones are the ones that sound like staggered split pedals,the ones with twin resolves or the ones that sound like a raise and a lower together on two strings.

Some examples on 8 string A6 on my favorite guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqYJKYWtbVw

George Redmon · From: Muskegon & Detroit Michigan.

I love bar slants, kind of a lost art i s'pose. I love doing the few i do. My Dad was from the old school. He played bar slants on every steel he played. Pedal & non pedal alike. I'll never touch his, but i sure enjoy the old reel to reel's of him doing them, just excellent.

Daniel Policarpo · Posted 26 Aug 2015 3:57 am

I don't have the double lower on my second string , so I slant to get a unison sound on this take-off type of lickâ€¦

b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

Very cool example, Daniel. Now I have an answer for those who say they need the full step lower on the 2nd string. Usually it's for unison licks like yours.
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