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Do you record at home?
Do you mic up your amp?
55%
 55%  [ 32 ]
Do you use plug ins?
44%
 44%  [ 26 ]
Total Votes : 58

Author Topic:  Do you record at home? A poll for the steel recording group
Jay Fagerlie


From:
Lotus, California, USA
Post Posted 30 Apr 2015 8:33 am     Reply with quote

I am a big fan of plug in amplifiers for recording , how about you?

If you record your amp through a mic/pre amp, or mixer, please tell me your favorite mics to use?

How about your favorite amps to record, and your "DREAM" amp/mic combination you would like to have in your studio.

Please post in the comments after taking part in the poll.


Me?
I would love the Standel 50L15 with a nice Neuman mic into a Millennia Media STT-1 in tube mode for pedal steel.

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Howard Parker


From:
Clarksburg,MD USA
Post Posted 30 Apr 2015 12:42 pm     Reply with quote

You need more choices I think.

I use both, depends on what is required of me.

I also use plugins other than amp plugins.

Again, depends on what is required.

fwiw

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Marco Schouten


From:
Assendelft, The Netherlands
Post Posted 30 Apr 2015 12:52 pm     Reply with quote

Usually a Shure SM57 straight into the recorder, but recently experimenting with the XLR out of my amp, through a microphone tube pre-amp.
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Jack Stoner


From:
Inverness, Fl
Post Posted 30 Apr 2015 1:20 pm     Reply with quote

I have various options including an SM57. I sometimes go direct using a POD X3 with a preamp program. I've gone direct using the XLR out on a Nashville 112. I've used an ART PRO MPA II tube microphone preamp, and even used a Yamaha THR10 direct.

I tried direct from the steel then a reamping but didn't like that and haven't tried it again.

My recording interface is a Roland Studio-Capture and I use Sonar (Platinum version).
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Paddy Long


From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
Post Posted 30 Apr 2015 4:55 pm     Reply with quote

I use the direct to desk XLR outs a lot these days, quite often in smaller studios where space is a premium ...out of my Telonics Rack rig it sounds fantastic.
When I do mic up I leave it to the engineer with regards to suitable microphones Very Happy
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b0b


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Post Posted 30 Apr 2015 9:30 pm     Reply with quote

I run through a Pod XT into a Roland VS-1880 recorder. No mic, no PC.
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Bob Russell


From:
North Carolina, USA
Post Posted 1 May 2015 4:45 am     Reply with quote

I use a tube preamp, then plugins.
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Larry Carlson


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Post Posted 1 May 2015 7:27 am     Reply with quote

I use both methods depending on what I am doing.
For mics I use a pair of Cascade M39's on the amp or a Audio Technica AT2020 when recording my Weissenborn acoustically.
Either are plugged in to an Alesis mixer and then to the computer.
Sometimes I plug directly in to the mixer/pedal chain.
I have nothing exotic or expensive. I just enjoy working with my stuff trying to get an acceptable recording.
It keeps me out of my wife's hair. She said she appreciates that.
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Les Cargill


From:
Oklahoma City, Ok, USA
Post Posted 1 May 2015 10:42 pm     Reply with quote

Yes.
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Tony Prior


From:
Charlotte NC..
Post Posted 2 May 2015 2:00 am     Reply with quote

Neither...

I don't record E-guitars with amps/mics or plug-ins.

I use one of these this 100% of the time now :




Built in parametric EQ and compression.





This one is especially clean and captures the natural sound of the guitar, I feed it to a DBX 2x2 compressor ahead of the DAW.

YEP, I print to the track. Rarely do I use any EQ on Steel or E Guitar tracks anymore, perhaps to pull some harshness out to balance the overall track tonality, but not to add EQ.

But I'm not recording for hi volume retail sales either. My primary goal is MP3 uploads to distribution sites which is far different than retail sales.
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Larry Bressington


From:
Kearney Nebraska
Post Posted 2 May 2015 1:29 pm     Reply with quote

Pod Xt... straight in.
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Johan Jansen


From:
Europe
Post Posted 2 May 2015 4:48 pm     Reply with quote

Fractal Audio FX2, straight
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Dale Rottacker


From:
Tacoma Washington, USA
Post Posted 2 May 2015 6:13 pm     Reply with quote

I’m pretty new, OK REALLY new, to recording, but what I’ve been doing is this...

My Telonics Multi Taper into a Profex ll, out of my Profex ll and into a Session 500... I’m then miking the 500 with an SM-57, XLR into a Presonus Firestudio Project and from there Firewire into a Mac Air book using Garageband... this is what I’ve gotten from this method,

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8VW-yqKTTqlmNe9zP-NtFvVHl6OkHZBa

I’ve tried recording direct, because I really like the idea of doing it that way, and not bothering my wife or the neighbors in the process... However, I must not have learned enough about recording that way because I’m not quite as happy with the liveliness of the sound going direct... I haven’t given up on it yet, but know there’s more needed in my education to get what I hear in my head to the recording... So threads like this and the comments of all are very interesting and beneficial to me... Right now I’m experimenting a little with miking 2 amps like I’m doing with the Session 500 and then going direct, Dry out of the 2nd output of my Telonics pedal... so 3 tracks at the same time, the Direct track panned center, and the two amps offset left and right but not equally... not sure my ear is good enough to hear the nuances that MUST be there.
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Rick Schacter


From:
Portland, Or.
Post Posted 2 May 2015 7:18 pm     Reply with quote

I use both.

I like to use Bias Desktop for direct recording and I use a Peavy Session 400 when I use an amp.
I've been using an SM57 for a mic, but I bought a Cascade Fathead ribbon mic that I've been meaning to try out. I haven't gotten around to it yet.
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Jim Park


From:
Carson City, Nv
Post Posted 3 May 2015 6:51 pm     Recording steel Reply with quote

I run my guitar through a Telonics pedal into a NV1000 ->XLR Out into Mackie 1640 I -> FireWire into an 8 core Macpro with Yosemite and Protools 11, I have many preamps , one I really like is the Lemay into a Lexicon PCM 96
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Charlie McDonald


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Post Posted 4 May 2015 2:52 am     Reply with quote

I use plug-ins; I just plug in.
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Bo Legg


Post Posted 4 May 2015 9:47 am     Reply with quote

No amp no mic no PC. Peavey tubefex left and right XLR out into 2 channels of the workstation.
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Charlie McDonald


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Post Posted 4 May 2015 10:02 am     Reply with quote

However, soon to have an M Audio 2-in 2-out zero latency interface....
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC..
Post Posted 17 May 2015 12:59 am     Reply with quote

You still have to dial in your tone with the AMP or a preamp. BUT, if your preamp is not a channel strip with 3 or 4 band EQ on board then I would agree, use an amp and a mic if you want to capture your distinct sound.

You may never be able to duplicate the tone of your amp/speaker going direct.

Remember, an interface is NOT necessarily a preamp, but it can be if it has the proper feature set. An interface is what allows getting your analog signal into the DAW, a preamp COLORS or boosts the signal. Two separate and unique
entities.
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Alan Brookes


From:
Brummy living in the San Francisco Bay Area
Post Posted 24 May 2015 4:24 pm     Reply with quote

I plug into various effects boxes (but mainly reverberation) and from there straight into the input jacks of my recorder.
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Ken Byng


From:
Southampton, England
Post Posted 29 Nov 2015 12:45 pm     Reply with quote

I have tried both methods. I have an XLR output socket on my Telonics TCA500, which gives a reasonably close speaker simulator. However, I prefer to use a mike and for years I used a Shure SM57. I use Pro Tools 11 with 2 Presonus Firestudio 10 x 10 interfaces, and a Pro Tools PC.

Last year I had the privilege of being in a Nashville studio observing Mike Johnson in action. Mike very kindly showed me all of his rig, and his preferred mike which is a Sennheiser MD 421 II Dynamic Microphone. I bought one of these mics, and it can take very high sound levels. Nice warm sounding mic with more detail than my Shure.
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Michael Douchette


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Gallatin, TN
Post Posted 1 Dec 2015 8:45 pm     Reply with quote

I have my "ideal" combo. I use an MBox2 with the included ProTools Lite, a Peavey NV112, a Cascade 731R ribbon mic, and an Aphex tube pre-amp I got from a buddy. (The pre-amp may change in the future, but otherwise, I'm extremely happy.)
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John Macy


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Denver, CO/Rockport, TX
Post Posted 5 Dec 2015 12:47 pm     Reply with quote

I mic it up in my commercial studio (Sennheiser 421 into a Neve), but with the home rig I use Brad Sarno's V8 Octal pre into a good preamp, usually a Daking or API, and into ProTools (my family wouldn't appreciate the amp, though I have been thinking about building a speaker iso in the basement under my home studio room..)
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Bob Hoffnar


From:
Austin, Tx
Post Posted 5 Dec 2015 9:46 pm     Reply with quote

Lately I use a Royer 121 mic into a Neve 5012 pre amp most of the time. For direct I use a Sarno V8. I'll try it into the Neve next time it comes up. Usually I just plug the V8 into my RME UHX for a direct sound.

I almost always mic my amp for recording. I've got a Milkman 40 that sounds amazing. The V8 sounds great also. But the mic'd amp has the edge to my ear.
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Scott Duckworth


From:
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Post Posted 6 Dec 2015 4:17 am     Reply with quote

I record directly into my Tascam DP-008EX (with the effects and mixer inline), and then import into audacity for the final tweaks and mix.
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