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Topic: Who tunes their 2nd string to C#? |
Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Roual Ranes
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Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 4:02 am |
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| Interesting! Gotta try that. |
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Henry Matthews
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Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 6:18 am
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I had heard that Weldon tuned his to C# and raised it to a D# but I use my second string D# so much that I'd rather lower mine the half and whole tone than to have to raise but it could work very well.
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Tom Gorr
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Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 8:03 am
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| If I were to tune it to C#, which I may do...I would also place it between string 4 and 5. |
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Billy Easton
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Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 8:54 am
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Hal Rugg also did this.
Billy
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 9:31 am
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I don't like half stops. So I raise the string to D# on my RKL and D natural on my RKR. (My RKR also lowers my 8th string to D to replace the missing 9th string.)
This necessitated another lever somewhere, ergo, the wrist lever.
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 10:00 am
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I assume we're talking universal tuning here - I don't see much point having a back-to-front second string on an E9.
But it's different on the uni. I tune string 2 to C#, in the first instance because Mike advocates it, but I see the sense. In B6 mode it sits there ready to use, and in E9 it's just as likely to be used as a D as a D#. I raise it in two steps on the same lever that raises string 9 from B to D. I don't mind half stops, or should I say I haven't given up on them yet 
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 12:16 pm
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| Ian Rae wrote: |
| I tune string 2 to C#, in the first instance because Mike advocates it, ... |
Ian, I'm flattered that you hold me in such high esteem. but you shouldn't do ANYTHING because I advocate it. (Or anybody else, for that matter.)
Tuning the 2nd string to C# works for me, but that doesn't mean it will work for anybody else. The steel is not like other instruments, and one size does not fit all.
I arrived at my present copedant after years of experimenting with different pedal and knee lever arrangements. My best advise is to try different setups and see what you prefer.
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Robert Parent
From:
Gillette, WY
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 12:42 pm
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I have done this for decades... Weldon is the one that inspired the change for me too.
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Henry Matthews
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Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 5:07 pm
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| Mike Perlowin wrote: |
I don't like half stops. So I raise the string to D# on my RKL and D natural on my RKR. (My RKR also lowers my 8th string to D to replace the missing 9th string.)
This necessitated another lever somewhere, ergo, the wrist lever. |
Mike, I really don't care for half stops either but the half stops on my push pulls are very positive and accurate so I can tolerate them. I couldn't play a lick if you took my 2nd string E flat away from me. I use it almost as much as I use 4th and 5th strings. I also use the half stop a lot but very seldom use it lowered hole tone. By the way, I'm not universal, just straight E9th.
Do you not raise yours to E flat?
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Larry Bressington
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Nebraska
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 5:42 pm
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I too have exsperimented, I'd prefer D if any but as I like the Franklin lever heavily raising the 2 string a half I'm like Ian, I haven't found an advantage because it still requires the same amount of levers to get all three notes either way you go.
I lower my 2nd a half with string 9 on one lever and I lower my 2nd a full on E lowers lever. It works out great and no matter what way you decide is best for you you have to work the Coped to your style, I don't do half stops either.
I actually did away with the second string full step drop for about three years, I only missed that when I played some of the famous licks of the players, it's nice to have but it can be done away with.
I'm constantly trying to find ways to simplify my co-ped and that's the move I would loose first.
Good thread from a monster players such as Mike
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 6:36 pm
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| Henry Matthews wrote: |
| Mike Perlowin wrote: |
I don't like half stops. So I raise the string to D# on my RKL and D natural on my RKR. (My RKR also lowers my 8th string to D to replace the missing 9th string.)
This necessitated another lever somewhere, ergo, the wrist lever. |
Do you not raise yours to E flat? |
Of course I do Henry. Take a closer look at what I wrote.
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Henry Matthews
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Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2015 7:41 pm
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Sorry Mike , I was misinterpreting a D# not being Eflat. Guess I'll think next time, lol
Thank you.
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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