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Dawn Jackson

 

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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2015 9:51 am    
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The guitar world is getting ready to change. We are pleased to introduce our unique hand-operated pitch changer technology for Dobro, lap steel and bass guitars (patents applied for). Electric and flat top guitars coming soon!
Unveiling at the Texas Steel Guitar Convention March 13-15, 2015.



SlideKing Lap Steel with Palm Pedal



SlideKing Resonator with Palm Pedal




Zane King discusses the new Jackson Steel palm pedal technology with Harry Jackson - from a Pedal Steel Guitar Player's perspective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx0R3-776b4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vgHKdMSxw8


For those of you who won't be at the Dallas show, visit our websites and facebook pages for more information on these exciting new instruments.
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 12 Mar 2015 5:45 am    
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That is very exciting. Wish I was going to be in Dallas to check it out.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post  Posted 13 Mar 2015 12:03 am    
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Not a new idea. Really cool but it's been done before.

Just a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Duesenberg did the same thing and looks better way back.
http://youtu.be/8TdapBSJ-fI

It's a great solution for the player who wants a portable pedal steel or more pedal steel style sound in straight bar.
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mtulbert


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Post  Posted 13 Mar 2015 4:01 am    
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Agree with yo 100 % Stefan and the movable nut is a great idea.

Should be interesting to see what happens. Will check out the Jackson today at the TSGA.
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Dawn Jackson

 

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Post  Posted 13 Mar 2015 6:43 am    
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Yes palm pedals have been done before. On more than the Duesenberg. It all has to do with the design of the pulling mechanism and the ease of using the pedals while playing (whether palm, foot or knee pedals). We have continued to improve on string pulling mechanisms since our early Sho-Bud designs and patents. And we continue to get new patents. Mark T we look forward to getting your feedback from the show.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post  Posted 13 Mar 2015 9:27 am    
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Unless you want to send me a custom one for my 12 string in London free. Or you are planning to come I wont see a review.
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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 14 Mar 2015 9:50 am    
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Wow they got this right Zane can't stop playing his lap king slide.Totally different from disusenburg. First thing I notice is u use your wrist to make pitch change instead of Palm .

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Johnie King


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Post  Posted 15 Mar 2015 6:15 am    
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Hi Dawn will we be able too buy these new pitch changers too install on our on products?
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 15 Mar 2015 6:30 am    
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Finally got a chance to watch the demos. Very impressed! Keep it up!
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Jimmie Hudson

 

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Post  Posted 15 Mar 2015 8:56 am     Tuning and copendent
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Dawn Jackson wrote:
Yes palm pedals have been done before. On more than the Duesenberg. It all has to do with the design of the pulling mechanism and the ease of using the pedals while playing (whether palm, foot or knee pedals). We have continued to improve on string pulling mechanisms since our early Sho-Bud designs and patents. And we continue to get new patents. Mark T we look forward to getting your feedback from the show.

What tuning and copendent do you use on the lap steel.
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Dawn Jackson

 

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Post  Posted 15 Mar 2015 10:31 am    
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Hi Johnie. Yes we plan to make these pitch changers available as a kit you can use on your own products. I'll keep you posted as we get them finalized...but we are probably still at least 6 months out from this.
Jimmie, as a standard we are currently offering an open E tuning, where the pedal changes it to an open A; or an open G tuning, where the pedal changes it to an open C. However, we can accommodate other tunings.

I will be posting some videos from the TSGA show on our websites and facebook pages this week.
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Dawn Jackson

 

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Post  Posted 18 Mar 2015 10:36 am     Jackson Steel Videos from TSGA
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Hi everyone.

Here are some videos from the TSGA conference where Lonnie Bennett and Zane King are demonstrating the new Jackson Steel instruments with hand-operating pitch changing levers.

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaS573XA3NY
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUCrrdehKTc
Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhWE7Lh4Obo
Part 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yL_vTNHkWI

And here are some links with Zane on the Dobro with his wife Donna King singing:

"Blue Bayou" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yQ6jdoGu8E
"I Can’t Stop Loving You" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGQDK0N-lAY
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Nicholas Ackron

 

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Post  Posted 18 Mar 2015 10:47 am    
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I love the jam with Big Ben and Zane!
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Lyle Bradford

 

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Post  Posted 18 Mar 2015 1:33 pm    
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At about 27 seconds on blue bayou the guitar or the pedal one is out of tune when he returns to the open position. Looks to me like it would be hard not to press it some and that happen a lot.
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Brian Henry

 

Post  Posted 19 Mar 2015 3:37 am    
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Would this be able to work on a frypan?
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 19 Mar 2015 12:37 pm    
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Stefan Robertson wrote:
Not a new idea. Really cool but it's been done before.

Just a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Duesenberg did the same thing and looks better way back.

thanks for your tacky putdown of what looks like a nice product.
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Mike Wilkerson


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Post  Posted 19 Mar 2015 2:51 pm    
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chris ivey wrote:
Stefan Robertson wrote:
Not a new idea. Really cool but it's been done before.

Just a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Duesenberg did the same thing and looks better way back.

thanks for your tacky putdown of what looks like a nice product.
Can't agree with ya more chris
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Dawn Jackson

 

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Post  Posted 20 Mar 2015 8:44 am    
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Hi Brian.
We are working to make this mechanism available for any instrument, However, we are still developing the roller bridge and tailpiece assemblies to make them universal. We anticipate 6 months before we can start marketing this package. We can custom build them for individual instruments but it will be at a pretty high price at this time...like $1000 per instrument. So my guess is most of you will want to wait Smile
Thanks for everyone's support and interest in these new developments.
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Niels Andrews


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Post  Posted 20 Mar 2015 10:05 am    
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I can't believe I agree with Chris, but I do. No need for that.
On another note I went, I saw and I played at Dallas. I think this will be the direction Steel Guitar goes in the future.I am ordering one with one of their resonators and might retrofit it to my Wolfe. What you can do is lower or raise any string or combination up to four semitones. It opens some unique possibilities with the resonator that have never been heard on that instrument before. Lots of fun!
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Brian Henry

 

Post  Posted 20 Mar 2015 2:12 pm    
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This might be a stupid question. But with all,the technological advances, why are we still looking at a mechanical,device to do this? Is there not a way to do this electronically, that is to bend the notes up or down!
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Georg Sørtun


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Post  Posted 20 Mar 2015 2:37 pm    
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Brian Henry wrote:
This might be a stupid question. But with all,the technological advances, why are we still looking at a mechanical,device to do this? Is there not a way to do this electronically, that is to bend the notes up or down!
Sure, but for such a change-mechanism I cannot see how adding electronics into the mix can improve on anything.
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Jimmie Hudson

 

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Post  Posted 20 Mar 2015 2:44 pm     bent
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Brian Henry wrote:
This might be a stupid question. But with all,the technological advances, why are we still looking at a mechanical,device to do this? Is there not a way to do this electronically, that is to bend the notes up or down!

That can be done. Very pricey indeed.
This would also take the players style bending the strings out of the picture. Not much fun in that.
Some old stuff just needs to be left alone and enjoyed as they are.
The mechanical hand or foot string bender is one of them. Just my thoughts.
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Chris Walke

 

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Post  Posted 27 Mar 2015 10:42 am    
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Brian Henry wrote:
This might be a stupid question. But with all,the technological advances, why are we still looking at a mechanical,device to do this? Is there not a way to do this electronically, that is to bend the notes up or down!


There is also the issue of hearing the natural sound (definitely from a resonator guitar, but possibly also from solid body steel guitar) against the pitch-altered sound.
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Dustin Rhodes


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Owasso OK
Post  Posted 27 Mar 2015 11:40 am    
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I might be wrong but I think he's not talking about electronic changing the signal but electronically controlling the string tension like with servos and things. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Chris Walke

 

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Post  Posted 30 Mar 2015 6:22 am    
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Dustin Rhodes wrote:
I might be wrong but I think he's not talking about electronic changing the signal but electronically controlling the string tension like with servos and things. Maybe I'm wrong.


Ah, that makes sense. But still sounds "mechanical" to me, as in there would be moving parts. I thought he was talking about electronic pitch altering along the lines of things like the Whammy pedal but specific to individual strings.
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